Cancel culture has gone too far

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's see that latest thing taken out by Cancel Culture.

    Brian May and bandmates have reportedly decided to exclude single 'Fat Bottomed Girls' from their upcoming Greatest Hits collection because of 'woke gone mad'
    https://m.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00210452.html

    "Fat Bottomed Girls" has been removed from Queen's new Greatest Hits collection. The 1978 song, penned by guitarist Brian May, celebrates a young man's appreciation for fuller-figured women but appears to be the latest victim of cancel culture.

    Featuring lyrics such as "fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go round," The track featured on Queen's original 1981 greatest hits album alongside tracks such as "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "We Will Rock You".

    However, it did not feature when Universal Records announced they would be releasing a version of the album on Yoto - a new audio platform aimed at younger listeners - in a move that has left industry figures baffled.
     
    #1011     Aug 20, 2023
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles


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    #1013     Oct 23, 2023
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Where's @gwb-trading to celebrate this fascism?



    pro-zionists here were shitty debaters so one may summarily dismiss:

     
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    #1014     Oct 31, 2023
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/11/1/23941810/israel-crackdown-dissent-war-critics

    Eight years ago, I published a novel about a Montreal Jewish family with a dangerous mystical obsession. It had absolutely nothing to do with Israel. But that didn’t stop a former Israeli combat soldier from trying to get me disinvited from a book event.

    He emailed the venue, arguing that it should not promote an author who had written critically about the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, as I had during my time as an Israel-Palestine reporter. “This,” he wrote, “is a disgrace.”

    Luckily, the venue held firm and I got to do the event. But that experience — absolutely trivial compared to the censorship Palestinians have long experienced — planted a worry in my mind: If I, a Jew and citizen of Israel, am not allowed to question the Israeli government’s narrative, then who is?

    The answer, increasingly, is nobody.

    Not the Pulitzer Prize-winning author Viet Thanh Nguyen, who was supposed to speak at Manhattan cultural hub 92NY but saw his event abruptly pulled after he signed an open letter condemning Israel’s war in Gaza.

    Not the editor-in-chief of science journal eLife, Michael Eisen, who was fired after reposting an Onion article about Gaza with the headline “Dying Gazans Criticized for Not Using Last Words to Condemn Hamas.”

    Not the Web Summit CEO Paddy Cosgrave, who tweeted that “war crimes are war crimes even when committed by allies,” referring to Israel’s war in Gaza, and then had to resign from leading Europe’s biggest tech conference.

    Not the Boston Workers Circle, a Jewish cultural center that got ousted from the Boston Jewish community’s umbrella group after cosponsoring a rally calling for a ceasefire.

    Not the Israeli professors, journalists, and lawmakers who have been suspended, fired, or even arrested for criticizing the war in Gaza.

    And not even the Israeli hostages who were recently released from Hamas captivity. When 85-year-old Yocheved Lifshitz stated that she was “given access to medical care” and “treated well while in captivity,” Israeli officials moved to prevent any similar press conferences in the future.

    American commentators, viewing all this through the lens of American politics, call the silencing of Israel’s critics “cancel culture.” But it’s more serious than that. This is political repression. And that’s a problem not only because it cuts against the value of free speech, but because it stands to hurt everyone, including Israel itself.

    Silencing voices that challenge the status quo and branding all dissent as disgrace makes it harder for those in power to think clearly. And clear thinking is crucial — especially in wartime.

    Israel’s climate of repression has been building for a long time
    For intellectuals and artists who are now criticizing Israeli policies for the first time, the intensity of the backlash they face may come as a shock.

    But it shouldn’t, because for decades, Israel has been silencing Palestinians who protest the occupation and advocate for their own freedom. Is it really so surprising that after silencing Palestinian dissenters, Israel would end up silencing others who dissent, whether they’re American, European, or even Israeli?

    The curbs on Palestinian freedom of expression go back at least as far as 1967, when Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza and set up a military occupation that still deprives Palestinians of some basic civil rights. “Since Israel occupied the West Bank in 1967, it has ruled using military orders issued in those early days,” explains Human Rights Watch. “Under those orders, the Israeli army has stripped Palestinians of basic civil rights protections, arresting Palestinian journalists, activists, and others for their anti-occupation speech, activism, and political affiliations.” Recent examples abound.

    Israeli and American Jews started to pay more attention over the past decade, when the repression began to target them. Starting around 2012, it became more common to see Jews critical of Israeli policies disinvited from speaking gigs. In 2013, college students who were sick of the leading Jewish campus group Hillel International telling them who could and couldn’t speak about Israel formed Open Hillel to promote more pluralistic debate. And 2014 saw the launch of Canary Mission, an anonymously run website that blacklists people sympathetic to Palestinians and posts dossiers on their personal lives and activism.

    Over the ensuing years, as Israel launched repeated military operations in Gaza so common that they became known as “mowing the grass,” American sympathies, long solidly pro-Israel, began to shift toward Palestinians, especially on the left. This March, a Gallup poll found for the first time that Democrats sympathize more with Palestinians than Israelis.

    Israel’s government, which has lurched to the far right under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, responded to these shifts not by tempering its policies but by increasingly stifling its critics. One strategy has been to brand absolutely any criticism of Israel antisemitic. Many Jews disagree with that characterization, noting that although anti-Jewish hate is all too real — we’re seeing it surging today — it doesn’t help Jews or anyone else to use it as a shield for everything Israel does to Palestinians.

    Many journalists and analysts warned during this period that the space for dissent about Israeli policies was shrinking. Now, it’s shrunk so much that, as the writer Sarah Schulman recently noted in New York magazine, the result is a state of “‘manufactured consent’ — Noam Chomsky’s term for a system-supported propaganda by which authorities and media agree on a simplified reality, and it becomes the assumptive truth.”

    How silencing dissent harms clear thinking
    The latest crackdown on dissent in the Israel-Hamas war is so stark that some journalists and civil rights groups are labeling it downright “McCarthyite.”

    The reference to the Cold War era in America is apt. During the “Red Scare,” the atmosphere was so hyper-suspicious that fear overtook reason. Case in point: thousands of Americans accused of sympathizing with communism were booted from their jobs even though no evidence of disloyalty was found.

    Some scholars have analogized the climate of repression in Israel after the October 7 Hamas attack to the climate in America after 9/11. In both countries, shocking attacks that killed many civilians occasioned fear, rage, and a thirst for revenge. As the Middle East scholar and pollster Shibley Telhami recalled on X this month, “Shrinking media space for criticizing US policy in Israel/Gaza is reminiscent of the pre-2003 Iraq war period. In the middle of war frenzy, it became harder to publish anti-war analysis.”

    We all saw how that turned out. US politicians alleged, based on faulty reports from the intelligence community, that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. As media outlets overflowed with pundits beating the drums of war, the last Gallup poll before the US invasion of Iraq showed 64 percent of Americans in favor of invading. That support actually rose to 72 percent after the US operation began, despite the failure to turn up any evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

    At times like these, it’s incredibly useful to have dissenting voices who force us to consider what the evidence is telling us. Yet in both these cases, we see not only that people have a tendency to close ranks when they feel threatened, but also that they tend to undervalue counter-evidence. They also don’t think clearly about how they’ll make a region safer after war winds down.

    America would have benefited from listening to dissenters after 9/11; instead, it silenced them. Israel — with support from its strongest ally, the US — is now making the same mistake.
     
    #1015     Nov 5, 2023
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #1016     Nov 13, 2023
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    the irony of this full circle is cray cray....

     
    #1017     Dec 11, 2023
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    The cancel culture state of Israel does it again:

    https://archive.ph/3ix0g#selection-2959.25-9961.193
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    The ABC sacked broadcaster Antoinette Lattouf after a high-level and co-ordinated letter-writing campaign from pro-Israel lobbyists that directly targeted the corporation’s chair, Ita Buttrose, and managing director David Anderson.

    Dozens of leaked messages from a WhatsApp group called Lawyers for Israel show how members of the group repeatedly wrote to the ABC demanding Lattouf be sacked, and threatened legal action if she was not.

    The messages also reveal members of the group calling Lattouf’s lawyer, Josh Bornstein, who is Jewish, a “traiter” (sic), and that the deputy president of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, Robert Goot, was actively involved in a discussion about having Lattouf dismissed.

    The WhatsApp messages, obtained by this masthead, give an insight into how Lawyers for Israel used aggressive lobbying to try to exert influence at the ABC. A source with knowledge of events says the group was also involved in a campaign against the Sydney Theatre Company over a pro-Palestinian protest by some actors, but those messages had since been deleted.

    Screenshots from the Lawyers for Israel WhatsApp group, which has 156 members, show a co-ordinated letter-writing campaign that became intense during the days Lattouf was on air. A stream of letters were sent on her second day, and on the third day – the day she was sacked – one of the group’s administrators, Sydney conveyancing lawyer Nicky Stein, sent a message at 6.54am entitled “Action of the day: call to action”.

    This post urged group members to target Communications Minister Michelle Rowland and copy in the ABC ombudsman, the board and Anderson, adding: “It is important ABC hears not just from individuals in the community but specifically lawyers so they feel there is an actual legal threat.

    “I have basically written to them and told them I expect a proper response, not a generic one, by [close of business] today or I would look to engage a senior counsel. I know there is probably no actionable offence against ABC but I didn’t say I would be taking one – just investigating one. I have said that they should be terminating her employment immediately.”
    Stein’s letter to the ABC and the minister said: “Anything short of terminating [Lattouf’s] position would not be sufficient.”
     
    #1018     Jan 22, 2024
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Regularly posting on social media urging the genocide of Jews and denying actual events like her supporters shouting "Gas the Jews"--- is certainly enough reason to sack Antoinette Lattouf. The only question is why it took so long to sack her.

    Antoinette Lattouf has been axed by the ABC for pro-Palestine posts
    Popular ABC radio presenter Antoinette Lattouf has hit back after being sacked over her outspoken posts on social media.
    https://www.news.com.au/entertainme...s/news-story/0db89113538ccff91880397678886ee0
     
    #1019     Jan 22, 2024
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    you just keep digging your grave w/this clownery GWB

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    The original source of videos appearing to show pro-Palestine protesters chanting “gas the Jews” has shared a new video of the protest as police and independent fact-checkers have been unable to verify whether the chants happened.

    Based on these videos, news outlets around the world published reports of the “gas the Jews” chants, including Reuters (which noted that the video was “unverified”), the New York Post and Fox News.

    But despite the enormous amount of attention and considerable response to the reports, third parties have been unable to verify the “gas the Jews” claim, and further footage corroborating the chants has failed to emerge. Crikey has reviewed other footage from the protest captured by other attendees but has been unable to find any corroborating the AJA’s claim.

    NSW Police told Crikey that no charges hade been laid relating to the alleged chant more than two months after assistant commissioner Tony Cooke told a press conference it was reviewing footage of the protest.

    In late November, The Sydney Morning Herald first reported that NSW Police had sent footage of the protest to an independent expert for analysis, but would not confirm what footage had been provided. On Monday, a spokesperson told Crikey it has since sent off additional footage for further scrutiny.

    Soon after the protest, organiser Fahad Ali posted on X that he had heard “anti-Semitic chants from a group of idiots who were in a minority”, and who he asked to leave. A further post from the organiser Palestine Action Group’s Facebook page also acknowledged that a “group of young boys, mostly in their teens chant[ed] ‘fuck the Jews’ “.

    Ali confirmed to Crikey this week that he heard the other chant but did not hear “gas the Jews”, nor had he seen any evidence it was chanted.

    The only footage that appears to show the chant has come from the AJA. The posts on X do not credit who filmed the various pieces of footages, who edited it together and who captioned the video. Crikey repeatedly called and emailed the AJA with questions about the footage, including who filmed it and how it was edited.

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    But new unedited footage unearthed by Crikey, an independent audio report and interviews with forensic audio experts have cast further doubt on whether that specific chant was captured in this footage.
    Even if these videos don’t depict that chant, it neither proves the phrase wasn’t chanted, nor does it cast doubt on the other (widely reported) anti-Semitic chanting from protesters.
    However, a “gas the Jews” chant is both distinct and significant as that specific language would be likely to reach the criminal standard of threatening or inciting violence against protected groups, according to a briefing reportedly given to the state’s police minister. And the interpretation of the videos will be likely to influence whether NSW Police charge protesters as they have been shown to police.

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    New footage and audio experts raise further doubts about Sydney Opera House protest video
    Crikey has also uncovered evidence of a previously unreported claim of a protester allegedly inciting violence.
    CAM WILSON
    DEC 19, 2023
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    NEW FOOTAGE OBTAINED BY CRIKEY OF THE OCTOBER 9 PRO-PALESTINE PROTEST (IMAGE: SUPPLIED)
    Content warning: this article mentions subjects some readers may find distressing.
    Days after the Hamas attack that killed more than 1,100 people on October 7, pro-Palestinian protesters gathered in front of the Sydney Opera House as it was lit up in blue in solidarity with Israel.
    Some protesters chanted anti-Semitic slogans. Soon after, videos of the protest went viral, including one that purported to show marchers allegedly inciting violence with a chant that referenced the Holocaust.
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    Against the backdrop of a documented global rise in anti-Semitism, one group’s videos showing protesters chanting with the caption “gas the Jews” were viewed millions of times online and prompted international outrage and a rapid change to New South Wales’ hate speech legislation.
    But new unedited footage unearthed by Crikey, an independent audio report and interviews with forensic audio experts have cast further doubt on whether that specific chant was captured in this footage.

    Even if these videos don’t depict that chant, it neither proves the phrase wasn’t chanted, nor does it cast doubt on the other (widely reported) anti-Semitic chanting from protesters.

    However, a “gas the Jews” chant is both distinct and significant as that specific language would be likely to reach the criminal standard of threatening or inciting violence against protected groups, according to a briefing reportedly given to the state’s police minister. And the interpretation of the videos will be likely to influence whether NSW Police charge protesters as they have been shown to police.
    This new footage also appears to capture what one expert said is a protester shouting “We’re gonna kill them all”, a previously unreported allegation of incitement to violence.
    Last week, Crikey reported that police and independent verification experts had been unable to verify the edited videos that had been shared by the Australian Jewish Association (AJA) claiming “Muslim mob of 100s chant ‘gas the Jews'”, and that additional evidence supporting the claims had failed to emerge. One protest organiser confirmed that some attendees had shouted anti-Semitic chants but said they did not hear the Holocaust reference.

    The AJA refused repeated requests to provide raw footage or to explain who filmed, captioned and edited the videos.

    Research Hub for Language in Forensic Evidence, and is chair of the Australasian Speech Science and Technology Association’s (ASSTA) forensic speech science committee whose expertise is forensic transcription. Before Crikeys inquiry, she was aware of the chants and acknowledged that it would shape her understanding of the footage.
    Fraser said it could be possible to figure out what was chanted with some confidence but stressed that coming to a rigorous conclusion would need detailed analysis of extended original footage and not “comparing short clips of video and audio with unknown history and unverified captions”.
    After reviewing the clips provided by Crikey, Fraser cast doubt on the certainty with which the AJA and Sky News captioned the videos. She told Crikey over the phone: “I would like to say that there should be a lot of suspicion around the ‘gas the Jews’ version.”
     
    #1020     Jan 22, 2024