Canadian to Muslims: Go back to the hellhole country you came from!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by jammy, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. jammy


    Sounds right on the money.

    Of course, he can say that only because he’s a Muslim.

    Actually, the entire quote is:

    “If you want to live under sharia law, go back to the hellhole country you came from, or go to another hellhole country that lives under shari law.”

    Conservatives here and in Canada are cheering him on. But that’s only because he’s talking about Muslims. It’s OK to speak the truth about Muslims, because Jews hate Muslims. It’s most definitely not OK to speak the truth about blacks and Hispanics, which is why, when a “former” Marxist Jew demands that every black and brown kid in America be given full tuition vouchers because vouchers are “the civil rights movement of the 21st century”, these very same conservatives cheer. Instead of telling blacks and Hispanics to “go back to the hellhole schools you came from”, they want to flood their own schools with them, turning all schools in America into hellholes.

    That’s why they’re conservatives.

    Corbella: Let's change the tune on official multiculturalism
    By Licia Corbella, Calgary Herald
    About one dozen families who recently immigrated to Canada are demanding that the Louis Riel School Division in Winnipeg excuse their children from music and coed physical education programs for religious reasons.

    The families believe that music is un-Islamic - just like the Taliban believe and then imposed on the entire population of Afghanistan - and that physical education classes should be segregated by gender even in the elementary years.

    The school division is facing the music in a typically Canadian way - that is, bending itself into a trombone to try to accommodate these demands, even though in Manitoba, and indeed the rest of the country, music and phys. ed are compulsory parts of the curriculum.

    Officials say they may try to have the Muslim children do a writing project on music to satisfy the curriculum's requirements. The school officials have apparently consulted the Manitoba Human Rights Commission, and they have also spoken to a member of the Islamic community suggested by those very same Muslim parents.

    In any event, the school district is trying to find a way to adapt the curriculum to fit the wishes of these families, rather than these families adapting to fit into the school and Canadian culture.

    Mahfooz Kanwar, a member of the Muslim Canadian Congress, says he has some better ideas.

    "I'd tell them, this is Canada, and in Canada, we teach music and physical education in our schools. If you don't like it, leave. If you want to live under sharia law, go back to the hellhole country you came from or go to another hellhole country that lives under sharia law," said Kanwar, who is a professor emeritus of sociology at Mount Royal University in Calgary.

    That might be putting things a little more forcefully than most of us would be comfortable with, but Kanwar says he is tired of hearing about such out-of-tune demands from newcomers to our country. "Immigrants to Canada should adjust to Canada, not the other way around," he argues.

    Kanwar, who immigrated to Canada from Pakistan via England and then the United States in 1966, says he used to buy into the "Trudeaupian mosaic, official multiculturalism (nonsense)."

    He makes it clear, that like most Canadians, he is pleased and enjoys that Canada has citizens literally from every country and corner in the world, as it has enriched this country immensely. But it's official multiculturalism - the state policy "that entrenches the lie" that all cultures and beliefs are of equal value and of equal validity in Canada that he objects to.

    "The fact is, Canada has an enviable culture based on Judeo-Christian values - not Muslim values - with British and French rule of law and traditions and that's why it's better than all of the other places in the world. We are heading down a dangerous path if we allow the idea that sharia law has a place in Canada. It does not. It is completely incompatible with the idea and reality of Canada," says Kanwar, who in the 1970s was the founder and president of the Pakistan-Canada Association and a big fan of official multiculturalism. Kanwar says his views changed when he started listening to the people who joined his group. They badmouthed Canada, weren't interested in knowing Canadians or even in learning one of our official languages. They created cultural ghettos and the Canadian government even helped fund it.

    "One day it dawned on me that the reason all of us wanted to move here was going to disappear if we didn't start defending Canada and its fundamental values." That's when Kanwar started speaking out against the dangers of official multiculturalism. He has been doing so for decades.

    So, it's no surprise that Kanwar is delighted with the recent speech British Prime Minister David Cameron delivered to the 47th Munich Security Conference on Feb. 5.

    "Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism," said Cameron, "we have failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong. We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run counter to our values. So when a white person holds objectionable views - racism, for example - we rightly condemn them. But when equally unacceptable views or practices have come from someone who isn't white, we've been too cautious, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them. . . . This hands-off tolerance," said Cameron, "has only served to reinforce the sense that not enough is shared. All this leaves some young Muslims feeling rootless and . . . can lead them to this extremist ideology."

    Kanwar actually credits German Chancellor Angela Merkel for being among the first of the world's democratic leaders to take the courageous step in October to say that official multiculturalism had "failed totally."

    It appears leaders are getting bolder. During an interview with TFI channel on Feb. 10, French President Nicolas Sarkozy declared that the government policy that encourages immigrant groups to foster distinct societies within France "is a failure."

    "If you come to France, you accept to melt into a single community, which is the national community, and if you do not want to accept that, you cannot be welcome in France," he said.

    "We have been too concerned about the identity of the person who was arriving and not enough about the identity of the country that was receiving him," Sarkozy added.

    Kanwar says for years, some "non-whites like me" have felt comfortable pointing out the failings of official multiculturalism. What's encouraging is that now "whites" or the majority culture and its leaders are starting to sound the alarm.

    Cameron ended his speech by saying: "This terrorism is completely indiscriminate and has been thrust upon us. . . . We need to confront it with confidence.

    "At stake are not just lives, it's our way of life. That's why this is a challenge we cannot avoid - and one we must meet."

    That democratically elected leaders are at long last starting to sing a different tune is sweet music to Kanwar. Here's hoping those poor kids in Winnipeg will get to hear some of it.[/quote]
  2. 377OHMS


    You've earned spot on my ignore list.
  3. pspr


    It seems this is right in line with what we should be doing. If muslims don't want to integrate into western society and abide by our laws they should find domicile elsewhere.
  4. As a Canadian, I take pride in the fact that we welcome people from all over the world to enjoy a better life in Canada. It doesn't matter to me what god they want to worship, or what they want to do for recreation, etc. Go for it, make yourself happy. But as soon as these immigrants come here and then look to change this great country and how we do business, that's when I have a problem. You are welcome to come to Canada and do whatever you wish, but you play by our rules. Don't like it? Fuck off and leave. You owe Canada for allowing you to live here, we don't owe you for coming.
  5. Lucrum


  6. but if they were born there, where would they go home to?

    A satanist worshipping Canadian would literally have to go home to hell, dunno how he is going to get there alive.
  7. Lucrum


    Some place that practices sharia law.

    Suicide maybe?
  8. Go "home" to whatever country conforms to your beliefs. Like Sharia law? Move to the Middle East. Enjoy communism? Move to China, don't try to change Canada to become communist.
  9. Hello


    I agree 100%, kudos to the professor from Pakistan for standing up to this bullshit.

    One thing i find surprising about the article is that this would be happening in Winnipeg, as it is a predominantly white city, i would expect garbage like this to come from a city like Toronto or vancouver over Winnipeg. Also like I have said many times before the vast majority of muslims i met in Toronto were very accepting of Canadian culture, though alot of them were second generation muslims, maybe there really is alot more radicals moving west now then when i was growing up, but i dont remember any of the muslims i knew preaching the kind of garbage the muslims in the article are preaching.
  10. Consider this situation as well:

    The World Sikh Organization of Canada is disappointed with the Quebec national assembly's decision to ban Sikhs from wearing a kirpan in the legislature.

    Sikh's claim this kirpan is a religious item. A ceremonial dagger they say. Look at the picture in the link, the kirpan could EASILY be used as a weapon. It's basically a giant dagger! You mean to tell me these people can't get their point across without this kirpan by their side? Is it really necessary? Maybe I'll attempt to enter the assembly with a chainsaw strapped to my back and claim it as a religious symbol. Ridiculous in my view.
    #10     Feb 18, 2011