Can weekly strategies be profitable?

Discussion in 'Options' started by spectastic, Dec 7, 2020.

  1. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    You're conflating a non-discretionary trading trigger rule for a risk-recognizing trading practice. This is often missed on ET, so your point is granted (with a :thumbsup:).
     
    #21     Dec 13, 2020
  2. Oh, master of subtlety. Not sure what you mean by those 2 things, but have a great weekend.
     
    #22     Dec 13, 2020
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  3. B Lucci

    B Lucci

    No, I stick to vertical spreads. I have looked into trading the others but I like simplicity. Straight verticals work best for me,

    Best
     
    #23     Dec 13, 2020
  4. B Lucci

    B Lucci

    Yes, trade often trade small. The Sosnoff/tastyworks mantra. Although that was my style before tastyworks/tastytrade came into vouge. As to positions I normally carry current week and 5 puts and calls next week. I generally don't trade beyond the current and next week. My Monday weeklys expire tomorrow. I've already closed out (tonight) the PUT vertical for a profit. The /ES is up 16.00 at the moment so I took the profit on the PUT side, the CALLs are still OTM but a little less than 1 SD from ATM. I'll watch them and see what happens when Tokyo, Shanghai and Hong Kong do when they open in a few minutes. Then sit tight, roll, close, etc. I am not inclined to take a position at the end of this week (Friday) because it is triple witching Friday. The /ES futures, /ES options and SPX all expire on the same day. Crazy things seem to happen on triple witching day. So I'll probably take some positions for Week 4.

    The Asia Dow index just opened up and the Nikkei 225 just opened down. I'm sitting tight on my CALL spread.

    Best
     
    #24     Dec 13, 2020
  5. qlai

    qlai

    K, my understanding is that tasty trades guys prefer unlimited risk trades, which makes sense if you trade small. Why do you prefer spreads?
     
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    #25     Dec 13, 2020
  6. B Lucci

    B Lucci

    I prefer credit spreads because thy offer Limited (i.e. defined) risk. Yes, Tom Sosnoff and Tom Preston and the rest of the tastytrade gang seem to like undefined risk trades. That is short strangles and straddles. But they do spend a fair amount during their daily show going over their recent studies about spreads and condors. I have hundreds of their segments with slides that I've saved on my hard drive and at least a third of them are studies they've done on defined risk trades.

    Best
     
    #26     Dec 13, 2020
  7. qlai

    qlai

    I think that is because lots of their followers have small accounts.
     
    #27     Dec 13, 2020
  8. B Lucci

    B Lucci

    Not sure what "lots" means (25%, 50% o5 75$) nor how you are defining a "small account" (e.g. 2,000, 10,000, more) My account is pretty decent (high enough to not have to worry about FINRA's Pattern Day Trading rules) and am a proponent of defined risk trades.
     
    #28     Dec 15, 2020
  9. qlai

    qlai

    I am thinking of accounts which do not have enough capital/margin to either take assignments or even open undefined risk trades. So someone who wants to collect premium on TSLA but doesn’t have account large enough to survive the worst case scenario.

    TT talk a lot about how much more flexible one can be trading undefined risk. I am not arguing against your approach, just thinking out loud.
     
    #29     Dec 15, 2020
  10. spectastic

    spectastic

    a few questions about your strategy.

    -why pick /es over spx, where there's more liquidity?
    -how do you determine the % take profit or % loss in your trading plan? i personally trade more on the discretionary side. the chart usually tells you whether buyers or sellers are in control. yours seems more systematic. But as market conditions change, how do you modify your strategy and rules? If you have put credit spreads that are at 50% profit, but market is looking strong, would you close it anyway and follow your list of rules, or make a call to let them expire worthless?
    - when you say risk a certain % of your account, do you mean max loss, or just the stop loss, and maybe some slippage?
    - how important is put/call ratio compared to ATM skew? I feel like the skew at least lets you have some sense of the direction bias, while put/call ratio, you don't really know whether they're being bought or sold.
     
    #30     Dec 15, 2020