Can We Defend The Entire World? Should We?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, Mar 5, 2011.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Go ahead and get in the last word so you can tell yourself you won.

    I gotta get up at 4am.
     
    #21     Mar 5, 2011
  2. Of course you won...didn't you.

     
    #22     Mar 5, 2011
  3. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    Are you trying to tell me that the Islamic Republic of Iran is the best choice when compared to the opposition?

    That is interesting. I haven't read that anywhere. I has assumed that the opposition would be comprised largely of educated people who grew up during the time of the Shaw with many younger students participating on the streets.
     
    #23     Mar 5, 2011
  4. The ideal but non longterm choice in the current regional climate would be an Islamic Republic of Iran without Amadinnerjacket in control. Speaking to Iranians recently left me with the distinct impression that the more moderate democracy minded types have kept a low profile when the crackdown began and the field was left open for the Islamists, Socialists and Communists. Have a look at the known opposition groups and you will find a handful that are Democratic in intentions.
     
    #24     Mar 6, 2011
  5. @AAA

    Congrats, you are becoming a libertarian!

    The answer to your question, and all other questions of this type is simple

    FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES

    Our government is to provide for the common defense.

    Our government is NOT to go on wars of imperialistic aggression.

    Our country is where we are because we have violated our charter. It was the best the world has, or will, ever see.

    1. We seeded power from Congress to the Fed for money issues.
    2. We got away from the fact that only Congress can declare war.
    3. We have confused what our inalienable rights are.

    Just go back to the constitution, and we will be just fine.
     
    #25     Mar 6, 2011
  6. Askmega

    Askmega

     
    #26     Mar 6, 2011
  7. Too bad the same people pushing this now weren't asking these questions during the Bush era. Why are we still in Afganistan? Because when we had a opportunity to kill Bin Laden the Bush administration decided to let him go. Why are we still in Iraq? Well assuming we had a legit reason to be there in the first place, an assumption which is more and more difficult to believe, the Bush administration had no idea of how to fight and win a war, that's why.
    Obama, the black version of Bush, continues the misadventure because he's bought and paid for by the same people that owned Bush. Wars are profitable, very profitable for the chosen few. For everybody else, very, very expensive. For so called conservatives to defend the chosen few when it comes to making money while destroying our country, along with everything else, and then bitch about why we're still there fighting wars is disingenuous at best.
    Conclusion, republican administration playing world cop, no problemo. Democrat administration playing world cop, OMFG, this can't continue.
    Chosen few making all the money...laughing all the way to the bank.
     
    #27     Mar 6, 2011

  8. Heh heh, theres alot of that. It must please Halliburton and Cheney. Patriots or Bond villains? you decide, because EVERYBODIES opinion matters.
     
    #28     Mar 6, 2011
  9. You keep repeating this claim that I was a big supporter of going into Iraq when the facts are exactly the opposite. I was skeptical and had numerous debates here to that effect.

    At the same time, I didn't accept the lunatic fringe spin that it was a war for oil or to enrich Halliburton.

    My conclusions on our many missteps seem to be confirmed by the book reviewed here. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030406166.html
     
    #29     Mar 6, 2011
  10. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    I'm thinking the theocracy really runs things and that Ahmedinajad only rules at their pleasure. I think the push to get nuclear weapons comes from the mullahs as well. I don't think a moderate president would change things much.
     
    #30     Mar 6, 2011