Can one choose to not settle an ITM option at expiry?

Discussion in 'Options' started by kmiklas, Apr 5, 2020.

  1. No, I'm sorry, but just no. Nothing about his post is "technically correct." This is not (as another poster asks) a question about the tax implications of "exercise" vs. "close the contract pre-expiry." OP simply doesn't understand how tax rates work. Which is fine -- taxes are complex -- but please don't call it "technically correct." He should consult with an accountant before making financial decisions about contracts for tax reasons (or just read more about taxation law).
     
    #11     Apr 5, 2020
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  2. zdreg

    zdreg

    Agree. My answer implied the same as your response but you were clearer to the point.
     
    #12     Apr 5, 2020
  3. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    Yes... but that's not the point. It's an illustrative example.

    This is the point. Can auto-execution be prevented?
     
    #13     Apr 5, 2020
  4. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    This is not a tax question... that was just an illustrative example.

    It is a question about options: can auto execution and deposit be prevented?
     
    #14     Apr 5, 2020
  5. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Without addressing all of the ancillary issues - OCC delivers to your broker a "contrary exercise list" two days prior to any expiration. You want to chat with your broker to make sure they offer up the opportunity to you to not exercise and have them walk you through what happens. Very very few brokers even acknowledge the list.
    The brokerage firm itself details in the options agreement what happens then and what rights you both have.
     
    #15     Apr 5, 2020
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  6. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    The rational decision for an ITM contract at expiry is to bank the profit. That is why brokers auto-execute and deposit.

    The question has nothing to do with marginal tax rates or coronavirus.

    It's whether I have choice about auto close and deposit.
     
    #16     Apr 5, 2020
  7. cvds16

    cvds16

    why just not sell the option at expiration date, seem the much more logical thing to do ...
     
    #17     Apr 5, 2020
  8. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    THANK YOU. glad that someone actually read the question, understood what I was asking, and didn't bash me about tax law.
     
    #18     Apr 5, 2020
  9. cvds16

    cvds16

    but you haven't answered my reply however ... sell the option at expiration date seems the much more logical thing to do in my eyes
     
    #19     Apr 5, 2020
  10. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    Right; this is the "Rational" decision--and what I have always done--bank the profit.

    Briefly, this question is really more about the notion of a rational market. In today's CV market, with businesses shut down everywhere, a rational market would be in freefall, as cash flows dry up, right?

    However, we have QE programs, Powell, etc, which stabilize the markets... and makes them... irrational?!

    I'm examining this market in light the Efficient Market Hypothesis and Rational Market theory. What is an efficient market including intervention in all forms?

    ...so I wanted an example of an irrational decision.
     
    #20     Apr 5, 2020