Can /NG fall below zero like /CL?

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by heispark, Apr 20, 2020.

  1. heispark

    heispark

    Unlike oil, they can burn natural gas if they cannot sell. However, I also heard some U.S. states or countries ban burning natural gas for environment. I don't think it's possible but do you think /NG contracts can fall below zero like /CL? I bet on calendar spread on /NG and to be honest I am somewhat scared watching /CL today.
     
  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    who knows it might happen.

    but strangely, yesterday NG went up massively by 15%.
     
  3. heispark

    heispark

    Low oil price > oil drillers bankruptcy > reduced NG production (NG is a by-product of oil) > good for NG price.
    I am talking about if it's technically possible in the future. /CLK fell below zero because they cannot not easily burn or dump oil. However, I guess natural gas disposal is easier than oil and therefore this joke hardly can happen in /NG. Make sense?
     
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    "Oh you liquefied her.... very resourceful, very resourceful".


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  5. clacy

    clacy

    Consider that anything is possible in today’s environment
     
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  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    We don't import NG. I reckon most NG is for electricity & home use which we're locked in for and not transportation. You can pump methane into old mines just like CO2 unlike crude. We flare millions of tons of methane already.
     
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  7. maxinger

    maxinger

    SO ! now we know, the exchange allows for negative commodity value!!!

    Who knows, stock price can go negative ?!?!?!
     
  8. bone

    bone

    TBH this is why I having been telling clients for years now to liquidate prompt physically settled contracts well before expiry. No measure of modeling or OI or COT data is going to predict a delivery or roll squeeze - that I’ve seen or am aware of at least.

    I have been telling clients about the May 2011 Cotton expiry prior to today.

    Now I have two really good examples. :vomit:
     
  9. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Sure and they may resolve with a reverse split as it approaches zero value. The assumption needs to be underlying is still solvent and the negative is a short term market aberration.
     
  10. maxinger

    maxinger

    could you pse elaborate this cotton may 2011 problem?
     
    #10     Apr 20, 2020