Can I long and short simultaneously ?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by VicBee, Aug 9, 2021.

  1. padutrader

    padutrader

    maybe but you did not mention that in your post
     
    #11     Aug 9, 2021
  2. cesfx

    cesfx

    Of course you can be flat :D
     
    #12     Aug 9, 2021
  3. cesfx

    cesfx

    You would be just freezing your loss. It is possible with some fx, cfd bucket shop brokers, some might even offset margins (-drawdown), and some people believe this is a method. But people believe in all kind of weird stuff...
     
    #13     Aug 9, 2021
  4. Girija

    Girija

    You could always do a buy 1 sell 2 deal, not withstanding the tax consequences (wash sale).
    Index etfs with inverses are easier for this.
    With futures you could use next month for offsetting positions.
    With 2 distinct accounts tracking is easier.
     
    #14     Aug 9, 2021
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  5. %%
    YES;
    its possible. SSO+ sds NOT that you would want to do that all the time, even in a roth/back door roth [tax free]account..............................
     
    #15     Aug 9, 2021
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  6. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    I've used directional vs inverse ETF pairs to hedge, eg UCO/SCO SPXS/SPXL etc
     
    #16     Aug 9, 2021
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  7. jnbadger

    jnbadger

    Hello again Robert. Isn't shorting the box illegal nowadays? Or am I missing something? We used to do it all of the time in the olden days to avoid the uptick rule.
     
    #17     Aug 9, 2021
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  8. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    I'm not aware of that SEC or FINRA rule, but we remove boxed trades.

     
    #18     Aug 9, 2021
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  9. jnbadger

    jnbadger

    Ok, I guess there are a few different ways to use "box" nowadays. I was referring to shorting in one account and being long in another. And I originally thought that's what the OP was getting at.
     
    #19     Aug 9, 2021
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  10. JamesJ

    JamesJ

    I highly doubt long equity in one account and the same stock short in other account is allowed on a larger scale...
    Cause it would allow you to bypass SSR and open a short position by selling your longs into the bid.
     
    #20     Aug 9, 2021
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