Can global warming be real if it’s cold in the U.S.? Um… yes!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. wjk

    wjk

    He is one of the brightest forecasters alive, and it wouldn't hurt climate scientists to pay attention since he actually uses climate history in his forecasting. Problem with you overzealous AGW people is you treat real meteorologists as TV wx men. You refuse to think they could possibly know anything about climate, which is ludicrous, and adds to the hoax belief of many. That crap has gotten old. Bastardi has a Bachelors in Meteorology. Does Al Gore? Do You? Then STFU. I've watched him outforecast NWS time and again, especially regarding hurricanes.

    Future Currents, I knew you you'd be the first to respond and insult the man. I've just about lost what little respect I ever had for you. I think you are a liar regarding your education and your hvac profession, and in fact, I begin to believe you are nothing more than a paid blogger, probably paid from an Al Gore slush fund. Every time I hear a rabid proponent of global warming being caused by man, you all say the same thing...word for word. Classic talking points.
     
    #71     Jan 24, 2014
  2. jem

    jem

    you need to read some of the articles I have been posting you ignorant troll.

    which part are you disputing?

    that when oceans warm they release co2?
    or that oceans are warmed when the tides change circulation patterns?
    or oceans are also warmed by the sun?
     
    #72     Jan 24, 2014
  3. He's a joke and 97% of the world's climatologists know that he is. Did you read what he said about the density of CO2 above? The guy is a joke.
     
    #73     Jan 24, 2014
  4. jem

    jem

    you need to read some of the articles I have been posting you ignorant troll.

    which part are you disputing?

    that when oceans warm they release co2?

    or that oceans are warmed when the tides change circulation patterns?

    or oceans are also warmed by the sun?
     
    #74     Jan 24, 2014

  5. In its policy statement, the APS declares: "Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth's climate. They are emitted from fossil fuel combustion and a range of industrial and agricultural processes. The evidence is incontrovertible: global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth's physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now."
     
    #75     Jan 24, 2014
  6. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    LOL!!!!!!! I bet fc's head just blew off. This shit can't be made up. Look at the then pic, then look at the now pic. THE LIBTARD TRUST FUND BABIES ARE ACTUALLY STUCK IN THE VERY ICE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GONE BY NOW! Just wow!
     
    #76     Jan 24, 2014
  7. jem

    jem

    that is how your respond to a reasonable question.
    what a troll you are.


     
    #77     Jan 24, 2014
  8. wjk

    wjk

    I went back and read it. Fair enough. I'm not claiming he is an expert on Co2, but he has a pretty damn good understanding of atmospheric dynamics. I just get tired of every meteorologist with a differing opinion (climatologists, too) getting ridiculed and in some cases, drummed out of their careers.

    I do know he is a very good forecaster. That's my own observation, not something I've read (I've been following him for decades). I also know that since he uses climate to forecast, he often finds historic scenarios that are similar to unfolding scenarios at a given time, sometimes decades prior and longer. That is what makes many meteorologists skeptical. They've seen these events repeat, many of them before the Co2 started rising.

    Does it not bother you when a pundit comes on TV and says "It snowed in New York in January...must be man made warming!"? And I'm not talking about right wing pundits.


    I'm curious. How many of the 97% climatologists hold PhDs in meteorology? Serious question. Which ones?
     
    #78     Jan 24, 2014

  9. He may be a good meteorologist. But frankly, when someone says stuff like he did I lose respect for their intellect.

    Here's more on Joe:

    “Completely wrong.” “Simply ignorant.” “Scientifically incorrect.” “Utter Nonsense.” “Very odd.” These are words scientists have used in the past to describe the nationally televised ramblings of weather forecaster Joe Bastardi, who Fox News hosts from time to time in an apparent effort to dismantle whatever its viewers might know about physics.
    When we last saw Joe, he was breaking the news that the world’s climate scientists had overlooked the first law of thermodynamics. (He was wrong.) After a thorough round of mockery in the blogosphere, we thought surely Fox would throw away Bastardi’s phone number. But here he is on Fox Business this morning, declaring that carbon dioxide “literally cannot cause global warming”:

    BASTARDI: CO2 cannot cause global warming. I’ll tell you why. It doesn’t mix well with the atmosphere, for one. For two, its specific gravity is 1 1/2 times that of the rest of the atmosphere. It heats and cools much quicker. Its radiative processes are much different. So it cannot — it literally cannot cause global warming.

    Asked about Bastardi’s statements, Kerry Emanuel of MIT said: “Utter rubbish. Sorry to be so direct, but that is just the case.” NASA climatologist Gavin Schmidt added: “Bastardi is attempting to throw out 150 years of physics.” “He seems very confused,” said physicist Richard Muller.
    Bastardi may be hoping that when delivered confidently, terms like “specific gravity” and “radiative processes” can convince Fox’s viewers that he knows what he’s talking about. But don’t be fooled; he is again garbling the very basics of climate science. Schmidt explained:
    Bastardi doesn’t understand the first thing about the greenhouse effect – it has absolutely nothing to do with the ‘specific gravity’ of CO2 or any other greenhouse gas, it has to do with the fact that GHGs absorb and radiate infra-red heat and in doing so warm the surface of the Earth.
     
    #79     Jan 24, 2014
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    An inconvenient truth? :D
     
    #80     Jan 24, 2014