Can CTAs trade ETFs linked to Futures

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by Kirribilli, Aug 23, 2018.

  1. Just wondering as it seems, at least in Washington state, as it seems to be less of a regulatory headache than the RIA route. Say, trading VIX futures, futures options, ETFs and ETF options, long and short. Can you be a CTA and form a fund with this stuff in it?
     
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    A hedge fund can trade both but might be subject to regulatory requirements from both. It would be best for a CTA to stick to just futures which are easily managed with SMA and are all 1256 contracts. A CTA that creates a fund is a CPO which requires more regulatory requirements than being a CTA.
     
  3. Nobody would want that.

    Over my career I'd been both an RIA and CPO/CTA (not at the same time, of course).

    While some "advisors" have gone their entire careers without a regulatory audit (hard to fathom that), I suffered 7. 3, from the SEC and 4, from CFTC. There were never any complaints against me, but because Denver was/is? a regional office and I was "small"... I think the regulators sent their rookies out to audit me for "experience". Didn't appreciate that at all.

    Anecdotally... After an audit you get a letter citing everything they found which was not in compliance... some of which can seem petty. (Assuming of course that they didn't find anything really bad so that they seized your records, locked your shop and hauled you away in handcuffs.) The one gig I recall is "not having full client information" on each customer's "account card" paperwork. Name, address, phone, etc. I had only the name.... the other info was in the client's folder in multiple places.

    6 weeks after sending me the letter citing the above, they sent an agent out to follow up and make sure I'd put the rest of the info on each client's "account card". (They usually don't notify they're coming... they just show up.) The account card is an important document. It shows information about initial/subsequent investments and redemptions. Having "full customer info" on it isn't important... it's just there for regulator/auditor convenience.

    At another time, I was a Principal in a small Broker-Dealer. We had 2 people whose full-time job was "compliance". Regulartors take their job very seriously... as would any gung-ho bureaucrat.
     
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  4. SMA = Single managed accounts?

     
  5. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Close, separately managed accounts.
     
  6. As an advisor/manager, your "regulatory profile" goes waaaay up if you (1) have custody of customer funds, and/or (2) comingle customer assets.... as in a "fund".