Can anyone compete with IBs margin rates?

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by Saltynuts, Feb 2, 2020.

  1. And I look at SPY. It says the fee rate is .25%, I take it annually. But the rebate rate is 1.08%? Does that mean one would get 1.08% to let someone short their stock, but the person that shorts it would only have to pay .25% annually? That really does not make sense to me...
     
    #21     Feb 4, 2020
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Because the people who get payed to lend out their stock or contracts, have to own it, ie they can't do it if they hold the security on the margin side of their account. When people short a security, they use margin, so IB which charges about 3% gets to bag the difference (3% - 1.08%) + .25%.
    Do that with billions of dollars system-wide.... money for nothin', chicks for free.

    Here's that link you wanted btw... https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=14527
     
    #22     Feb 5, 2020
  3. heywally

    heywally

    Total agreement. IB was a much scarier boat to be in with the past lower margins.
     
    #23     Feb 8, 2020
  4. CannonTrading_Ilan

    CannonTrading_Ilan Sponsor

    On the futures side we DO MUCH Better....
     
    #24     Feb 10, 2020
  5. tonyf

    tonyf

    Why not straight forward US equities then?
    (and how could your cost of funding be cheaper than IB?)
     
    #25     Feb 11, 2020
  6. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Some of you are talking about the margin required to trade equities/options or futures/options and some are talking about credit/debit interest rate spreads.
     
    #26     Feb 11, 2020
  7. tonyf

    tonyf

    Possibly, but we are all talking about the same 2.63% charged when borrowing $1m from IB Pro: https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=1595

    We can start by comparing apples to apples...
     
    #27     Feb 11, 2020
  8. ids

    ids

    So, what gentlemen from Cannon Trading could tell us about the subject?
     
    #28     Feb 11, 2020
  9. tonyf

    tonyf

    Don't hold you breath for a reply in CAPS LOCK :)
     
    #29     Feb 11, 2020
  10. CannonTrading_Ilan

    CannonTrading_Ilan Sponsor

    Like @Robert Morse said, some of us are talking about futures margins and day trading margins and some are talking about equities lending/borrowing.
    Cannon does not offer equities, only futures, options on futures and forex. been doing so since 1988.
    Day trading margins for day trading the ES, NQ, YM and many others are $500 per contract!
    We use SPAN margins for option sellers.
    Crude oil, gold are $1000 day-trading.
    Here is the full list.
     
    #30     Feb 11, 2020