Call Out Your Potential Option Trade and Let's Discuss it

Discussion in 'Options' started by jeffalvinson, Apr 25, 2016.

  1. Larry,

    I do have a steady consistent thing I trade daily.
    I have traded (and still do) a mathematical based computer program signal generation for years and
    I even posted some live trades on ET in 2008 (Purely Mechanical Option Trading) and 2012 (Purely Mechanical Option Trading Part 2).
    Age, health and major surgeries for myself and my wife has caused frequent interruptions in my threads.

    This current thread "isn't meant" to be a thread about high option volume events.
    Its suppose to be a pleasant no pressure thread where option traders can share ideas and thoughts on any kind of potential option trades and we can all discuss them in a friendly manner.
    For example, look at how many good thoughts and idea's the ET members have come up with about the unusual option volume event on LUV. That's excellent and its what I was hoping for.

    Jeff
     
    #21     Apr 26, 2016
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  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Down 40% so far. Off to a good start. Of course the call buyer is really short via the synthetic put and he is actually doing quite well. High oil prices - lower airlines - cheap vol.
     
    #22     Apr 27, 2016
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  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    How do you know this?

    There was no block print around then other than one for 18,000 shares and there was a block print for the Apr22 44.5 puts at the same time (crossed on the same exchange).

    Further the opening trade on the Apr22 44.5 was opening (again another block print) with no stock associated with it on 4/8.
     
    #23     Apr 27, 2016
  4. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru




    40% is nothing when it comes to options. One day down 40% next day up 40%.

    Options = Volatility
    Volatility = Wild Price Swings





    :)
     
    #24     Apr 27, 2016
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  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I don't know. That is the point. Nobody does. And block prints can be posted after the close and if they are done internally, they don't have to post at all. It's just a "guess". Not something to build a trading strategy around and it's how Dr. J got annihilated trying to execute it. What did he call it, the heat sinker? Using deductive logic on the trade, the trader putting on the syn short given other mkt variables makes just as much sense as any other. In other words, it's a crap shoot.
     
    #25     Apr 27, 2016
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  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Okay. You made it sound like you knew.

    FWIW, I don't think you can print options after the close and they have to cross before the corresponding stock can cross and the stock has to cross in a reasonable amount of time.

    So you can often actually deduce what was trading. But you can't deduce what was on the books before, who the counterparty is, and what their motivation was. Eveno on very on big trades. A 10,000 lot is big to us, but is less than Steve Cohen's daily margin expense.
     
    #26     Apr 27, 2016
  7. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru

    RE: Call Out Your Potential Option Trade and Let's Discuss it.




    Option Strategy

    Buying 1-strike OTM weekly calls or puts the day after earnings in direction of a strong move. Example:
    • Puts on AAPL today.
    • Calls on FB tomorrow.

    Trade Entered

    Email confirmation of the trade I entered today:
    2016-04-27 15:42:48 ET BOUGHT 1 PUT AAPL 2016APR29 97.00:US at $0.58 USD

    With AAPL at $97.82 the put is actually 2-strikes OTM, but the strikes are only $.50 apart. The current bid/ask is $0.41/$0.44.




    :)
     
    #27     Apr 27, 2016
  8. FSU

    FSU

    Ok will throw in my trade today. I bought 1,000 of these puts, SPX 2018 100 puts for .10 (by the way Scrooge, nice sale at .20)

    I have been trading these far out cheap puts in the SPX for awhile. I can guarantee that some time before expiration you will be able to sell them for more than .10 Almost no risk here.

    Scrooge, your biggest risk here in being short them is a bad mark. The market can easily go very wide on the close and you may lose a lot on a mark, which could cause problems. If I were you I would by them back for .10, take your profit and start again. You will have to wait 2.5 years to get that last .10, vs taking your first dime in only 2 days.
     
    #28     Apr 27, 2016
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  9. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru



    I placed a limit order to sell-to-close at $2.00 earlier on in the day and it got hit, email confirmation:
    2016-04-28 15:13:35 ET SOLD 1 PUT AAPL 2016APR29 97.00:US at $2.00 USD


    No position in FB.

    :)
     
    #29     Apr 28, 2016
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74


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    #30     May 6, 2016