Call option premiums

Discussion in 'Options' started by spreadem, Jun 6, 2003.

  1. In general i'd agree that you buy options when premiums are low; but, remember that options are very sensitive to time also. The rate of decay of premium of an option accelerates going into the last 10 trading days. Especially if it's an out of the money option.
     
    #21     Jun 6, 2003
  2. I would think that MMs buy all that premium as a hedge and nothing more. And I never said the opposite of the retail customer is always right........I said it was right 90% of the time :D
     
    #22     Jun 6, 2003
  3. I can see MM's buying premium ... after the've sold premium during the run-up.
     
    #23     Jun 6, 2003
  4. Trajan

    Trajan

    It is always a hedge, but as a mm, sometimes it becomes outsized relative to the overall position. Order flow can be one sided and as a mm you have to be prepared to marry any option that you trade.
     
    #24     Jun 6, 2003
  5. Trajan

    Trajan

    It is typically how it works. Speculators come in and buy calls during a run-up and then start to sell at a certain point. It is one of the reasons IVs come in when a stock goes up. It is one of the mechanism in the market that works to the benefit of the mm. Sometimes a rally starts by customers selling calls though, it is how the rally in csco started last April. They were very wrong.

    Btw, June in Los Angeles is the worst month of the year here, especially buy the coast. It is supposed to be Summer but it is overcast for what seems like the entire month.
     
    #25     Jun 6, 2003
  6. Trajan

    Trajan

    Another thing, MM will be long otm calls as a result of making a market for a large institutional order.
     
    #26     Jun 6, 2003
  7. Foz

    Foz

    Is that the SPX June 1010 call, symbol SPQFB, that closed at 5.10? If so, so far so good!
     
    #27     Jun 6, 2003
  8. ktm

    ktm

    I sold a bunch of those at 11 this morning myself. I got in deep on the 975s, then the 995s this morning and rolled up into 1010s in the teeth of it. Luckily I have a bunch of 1025s that are coming up with me. Margin requirements for the 1010/1025 are a lot less than the 975/1025...good thing cause I need 3 times as many to get my money back!!!!
     
    #28     Jun 6, 2003
  9. I thought you were supposed to hedge the gamma in order to make money in options. Isn't gamma the key to options profitability? The "volatility smile" and the convex gamma line?
     
    #29     Jun 6, 2003
  10. Foz

    Foz

    It sounds like you are pretty active in the SPX options and want fills sooner rather than later, Ktm. How do you execute your orders? At the market? Work a limit order? If limit, what price do you use for your limit?

    Thanks.

    I'm short a single June 875 put from a couple weeks ago. Looks like it should expire worthless. :) This was only the second time I've made a trade in the SPX options. I don't think I'm going to write a new one when this one expires, with the VIX and premiums so low. Like Spreadem, I'm torn between writing a call and buying a put instead. Maybe I'll go out to August and buy a put.
     
    #30     Jun 6, 2003