The ulta-leftist democratic grassroots and the liberal wing of the democratic party did not support the welfare reform. The republican/conservative grassroots would love nothing more than to get rid of welfare, affirmative actions and similar programs altogether. While their views are shared by their conservative representatives in the government, they don't have enough political will and votes to actually do that. Where do you see a contradiction?
You started off with "liberal democrats", then modified it to"the ultra-leftist fraction of the democratic party", then again to"the liberal democrats or ultra-leftist fraction of the democratic party and again to "The ulta-leftist democratic grassroots and the liberal wing of the democratic party ". Can you see how you are trying to hedge your position vacillating between various definitions? I won't even get into the "undeniable", "facts" etc about your absolute certainty regarding your dogmatic positon based on a cut and paste remark vaguely suggesting behavior of a certain section of society not backed by any factual evidence whatsoever unless you want to make it an issue, in which case let me know and we'll go over that part in greater detail.
All these definitions refer to basically the same group of people - a pretty large fraction of the democratic party (both grassroots and politicians) believing that welfare and similar programs should be kept and expanded. I don't understand how anyone can possibly deny that these people exist, that they constitute the liberal wing of the democratic party and that these are their true views on the issue of welfare... Oh and that the fictitious story absolutely correctly described their views.
You're running around in circles my friend. First it is not "basically the same group of people". Your descriptions define different segments of a party based on how far to the left each faction or portion of that party leans. It can't all comprise the same group becaue their ideologies are shaped on their leaning curve. I'll also reiterate that you don't know for a fact that it is anybody's view or views. It is your subjective opinion on an issue where you don't have a single ounce of proof or factual evidence to authenticate your purely subjective opinion/belief.
Please, cut this nonsense. Liberal democrats, leftists, socialists, communists etc may disagree on certain things and have somewhat different ideologies but they are united in their support of welfare and similar programs. You're splitting hairs and it's not working.
It is not nonsense. " Liberal democrats, leftists, socialists, communists" etc - are not the same. What you are saying is preposterous Also just blandly stating that "they are united in their support of welfare and similar programs" is ridiculous. First and foremost you don't know for a fact that "they are united in their support of welfare..." It is only your personal belief . You also based your entire premise as I mentioned earlier on a cut and paste remark. I'm not "splitting hairs". I'm much further apart and not even close to "splitting hairs" on this issue.
Are you seriously going to deny that the predominant core base of the Democrat party at best favors welfare and at worst favors wholesale income redistribution?