California dreamin

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Mav88, May 16, 2010.

  1. Good post from tomdavis. Businesses and people still free to leave apparently. No exit tax yet?





    http://thebusinessrelocationcoach.blogspot.com/2010/05/updated-again-californias-hostile.html

    May 6, 2010
    Updated Again:
    California's Hostile Business Climate --
    129 'Business Disinvestment' Events

    Apparently, No state agency keeps track of enterprises that move out of California...

    Below is a roundup of activity that I've been able to find since I started this blog in July, 2009...


    ... one state economic development official admitted that in 2007 (before the economic meltdown) the state lost "only" 1,000 businesses... state lost 25 percent of its total manufacturing employment between 1990 and 2007.
     
    #41     May 16, 2010
  2. Hmmmm...so it would be okay if she was going for a degree that would help her make more money than a poly sci degree?

    So welfare is okay, when it fits your economic model of what type of education to get?

    Isn't that still being supportive of a nanny state...just a stricter nanny that tells a person what to study?



     
    #42     May 16, 2010
  3. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    With 1.4 million enrolled it's likely much more than $600 million.

    WTF does the bible have to do with this?

    NO
    NO
    and NO.

    That's just a bunch of stupid presumptive BS YOU dreamed up hoping to get me to argue with you.
    Maybe next time ZZZzzzzzzz.......
     
    #43     May 16, 2010
  4. So are you indicating that you oppose any tax money for education?

     
    #44     May 16, 2010
  5. The sad thing is, the California legislature actually considered an "exit tax" until they were told that it was in violation of the federal constitution and completely unenforceable.



     
    #45     May 16, 2010
  6. Mav88

    Mav88

    Hell yes, if I am going to pay taxes to help someone out, they had better not be wasting time and money getting a poly sci degree.

    I have never heard anyone on this board, including myself, defend corporate welfare. I especially despise agriculture subsidies. However a tax cut to a producer is NOT welfare. Welfare is handing money to people who produce nothing or produce far less than they consume.

    The levels of social spending are already staggering and economically choking, but people will still defend someone's 'right' to have 4 kids they cannot support and get a poly sci degree on the government teat. Amazing, simply amazing.
     
    #46     May 16, 2010
  7. So it appears it is not a nanny state that bothers you, but the way in which the nanny controls what the welfare recipients do is the issue...

     
    #47     May 16, 2010
  8. Mav88

    Mav88

    There is a place for fiscally disciplined socialism, I mentioned auto insurance as an example. It involves all people being responsible, those who are not are cut off. That's not a nanny state.
     
    #48     May 16, 2010
  9. I don't disagree with that concept.

    However, what do you do with those who are irresponsible?

    You mentioned taking their children away at one point...I think.

    Really?

    So you do favor a nanny state to take care of the children...

    For how long? How to take care of them? Put them in foster homes?

    Seriously, I understand your frustration when people abuse the system (though I am not sure that is the truth in this case) but what is your realistic solution that will really create a permanent change?



     
    #49     May 16, 2010
  10. maxpi

    maxpi

    That was spoken to a really wealthy guy, not a working guy trying to support a family like a lot of taxpayers that foot the bill for bullshit artists like you...
     
    #50     May 16, 2010