California bans sales of gas powered vehicles by 2035

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  1. Nobert

    Nobert

    While each manufacturer has his own type of a charger.
    (First e plane producers are about to come with a law that would require all of em having the same type of a charger head)
     
    #21     Sep 24, 2020
  2. VicBee

    VicBee

    Yes... From an American perspective I understand your points. We are used to organic change; bigger eats smaller until fat, then hungry and smart comes and conquers. This is why America has a bad education system, a bad healthcare system, a bad infrastructure system, etc... You will notice that the symbol of our power, our military, is run like a communist system. Because our bright brass recognizes that some things are too important to let the market decide.
    As a European, we are so accustomed to government setting standards that we welcome them as signs of progress. We have the GSM standard so all our phones operate on all providers, we have double pane windows standards so all our windows are at least double panes, etc.
    My point is, if government doesn't set standards, the market won't either unless it controls all. If we want to promote alternative energies, government must force change and upgrade standards. Ideally, governments will subside the change to lessen the buren on those affected.
     
    #22     Sep 24, 2020
  3. Metamega

    Metamega

    That I didn’t know. Only did one apartment complex where co-worker installed, never paid attention to it.

    But if their all different then that’s got to change real fast.

    Somewhere along the line we went from standardizing things to proprietary equipment.

    Like a 15 amp 120v receptacle is the same no matter who makes it. A lightbulb socket is another standard. Furnaces use to have sequencers and relays and multiple brands all made the same parts.

    Now it’s all individual circuit boards that cost a fortune. LED fixtures for most part aren’t serviceable, all riveted shut. Pain in the ass.
     
    #23     Sep 24, 2020
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  4. Sig

    Sig

    Maintenance of solar is a nightmare? There are three components to a typical solar array.
    1. Panels. No moving parts, typically 20-30 year warranty, very little ever goes wrong with them unless a poor manufacturer makes a bad batch.
    2. Inverter. May have one moving part, a cooling fan, but they've mostly engineered those out. Otherwise a well proven piece of equipment that again has a very low failure rate and is typically warrantied for at least 10 years. Changing one out requires you disconnect a single DC feed and a single AC feed, not hard if you do have to do it.
    3. Wiring and a junction box. Again, nothing complex here.

    I'd strongly encourage you, especially as an electrician, to actually learn about something like solar before imposing your political opinion on it. It's not hard, you already have the background knowledge base to quickly learn about it and information is widely available. What's more, there is great opportunity for electricians in the field. You're far better than the person who reflexively decides they don't like something they admittedly know little about because their political tribe tells them they should. Especially since you as an electrician are equipped to learn and understand the truth of the matter far better than the members of your political tribe who are telling you how to think on this specific subject.

    As far as the second part of your comment, again facts matter. For residential leases signed, renewed or extend on or after July 1, 2015, landlords are required to approve a tenant’s written request to install an electric vehicle charging station at the tenant’s parking space if the tenant enters into a written agreement which includes requirements regarding the installation, use, maintenance and removal of the charging station, requires the tenant pay for all modifications, and requires the tenant to maintain a $1,000,000 general liability insurance policy. That's a far cry from "California requiring landlords to have to install electric vehicle charge stations if a tenant gets an electric vehicle.", they simply have to allow the tenant to pay to install it and remove it when they leave. That imposes pretty much no burden on the landlord at all, certainly not anything "horrible"?
     
    #24     Sep 24, 2020
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  5. Freedom is being eroded in Cali.

    I am one of those orange county republicans that is gone.
    Yup, I was in orange county. It was better back then. So different now. Sad cities. Sad towns. A few nice places left.
     
    #25     Sep 24, 2020
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  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    They sell those little red cans in any hardware store, that you can store 1, 2 or 5 gallons of gas in. Easy peasy refill.

    And will get you far even in a large vehicle that gets 20 miles to the gallon.

    If you forget to fill up your gas tank, you can refill from your backup supply from the can at 2 AM, in a minute.

    If you forget to recharge your car , you can recharge your car in...Oh, wait a minute, there's no power available, and you can't just toss another battery into the chassis.

    Would suck to run out of power in a situation like this...

     
    #26     Sep 24, 2020
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    Giant quadcopters that can carry a person is not a flying car! It's all BS. ROFL!

    Morons. All the beautiful dreaming and fancy presentations does not negate the fact that not only can you not have a practical flying car, but you certainly cannot have a practical ELECTRIC flying car.
     
    #27     Sep 24, 2020
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  8. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    People can't even figure out how to wear masks, flying cars like jetson lol

    True California has changed horribly left socialist vs 30yrs ago.

    Re cars it's typical dem overregulation to mandate evs imo
     
    #28     Sep 24, 2020
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  9. Sig

    Sig

    If you were old enough at the time you would have been saying it was "dem overregulation" when they mandated emissions controls which took the smog from choking dangerous levels to almost non-existent in places like LA today. We're a republic precisely so that places like CA which have their own constituencies and their own issues can legislate accordingly. So your imo, since you don't live there, is absolutely irrelevant.

    The state still produces far more of the country's GDP than their population share, the vast majority of it from creating things, and that dramatically increased over the last 30 years you're lamenting. And it's still subsidizing most of the red states when it comes to federal tax receipts, also actually going up rather than down. How have Kansas and Mississippi and Nebraska and Alabama and.... done over the last 30 years, since they didn't "change horribly left socialist" and instead followed the path you'd advocate? Even if you throw Texas and Florida in there, the "horribly left socialists" created a whole hell of a lot more over the last 30 years than those you agree with. Hard to see how you could then, from a capitalist, conservative viewpoint, say CA is not only doing things wrong but "horribly" over the last 30 years?
     
    #29     Sep 25, 2020
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  10. bone

    bone

    Well that should solve all the problems.
     
    #30     Sep 25, 2020
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