Calendar Spreads

Discussion in 'Journals' started by gatorplease, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. Great post , RM. OTM is the way to go , but why high vols stocks are better ? Vols nominal and debit paid are trade offs , no ? And you are missing one (but most important part) in earnings trades...Check out LOW's NOV/DEC otm calendar's prices for the last week , it should give you a hint :)
     
    #531     Nov 11, 2006
  2. I agree with OTM calendar, but why rangebound stocks? If you know it is rangebound, there are many other ways of making money.
     
    #532     Nov 11, 2006
  3. dqtmg2

    dqtmg2

    XLE's ATM Nov Puts have a gamma of 0.20 compared to OIH ATM Puts have a gamma of 0.06. Why the big difference? OIH has an IV of 32 while XLE is 25. So the high gamma in my spread is a function of XLE not the position. A similar OIH multi calendar has a gamma of -42.
     
    #533     Nov 11, 2006
  4. dqtmg2

    dqtmg2

    In looking at it further, XLE ATM Theta is .05 while OIH is .15. So more of the theta has bled out of the XLE position, causing the higher gamma (gamma is the inverse of theta, right?). It looks like to me I should be looking to close the XLE position Monday, while an OIH position could be held onto longer.
     
    #534     Nov 11, 2006
  5. IV, didnt say it was better, just that it was personal preference.

    I also didnt say it was an earnings strat either. Playing the cyclical effects on vols is a whole other topic that i dont intend to go into. I leave that for you to discuss one day if you so choose. :)
     
    #535     Nov 11, 2006
  6. Again, rangebound high vol stocks was a personal preference and it mostly has to do with my signal and the way i like to structure the vega part of the bet. I dont play these for the theta yip.
     
    #536     Nov 11, 2006
  7. Got it. Earnings aside , what is your favorable duration , short 30d --> long 60d ?
     
    #537     Nov 12, 2006
  8. Yep. I mostly play the delta angle so short front month, long next month with 7+ days in the front month.
     
    #538     Nov 12, 2006
  9. New to those calendars , still testing , but I like what I see so far...Future vols bet aside , it looks to me that best way to enter non-directional trade is :

    1. Double long calendar
    2. 30d-60d OR 60d-90d
    3. OTM or even FOTM (which is not necessary is a lotto ticket)
     
    #539     Nov 18, 2006
  10. IV-trader... which are "those" calendars?
     
    #540     Nov 18, 2006