Calendar Spreads

Discussion in 'Journals' started by gatorplease, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. I'm looking to put this on paper trade to follow but computer says 1160 is not tradable. then I looked and there are no 1160(sept) puts...did you mean 1165? thanks

    ps. very interesting trade this close to aug exp..essentially your getting a long call and put for sept very cheap...then you can scalpe all you want come post aug...very nice..using 1165 I'm getting a debt of .30

    pps.oops accidently sent it in at the natural and got debt of 1.20:mad: glad I did this on paper. I can't yak and trade at the same time:confused:
     
    #381     Aug 1, 2006
  2. Just giving an update on the vix bets. Stat vols are falling off a cliff and the horizontal skew has flattened dramatically turning any long calendars into big winners this month. A fellow trader had a big nov/aug 15 calendar position for $.50. It was offset today for $1.6 after a week or so. I know some of you put on some calendars a couple of weeks ago so you must've done comparably well.

    Going forward, as i mentioned a couple of weeks ago, i still favor the risk profile of the +delta/gamma diagonals given the vertical skews which are still quite pronounced.

    Good luck guys. Will do an update on my diagonals when vix aug options expire.

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    #382     Aug 1, 2006
  3. Pervail,

    The long/short strike difference is 35 points apart. Is that a reason for it?
     
    #383     Aug 1, 2006
  4. Very interesting. Tenor skews will overwhelm spot vol decrease approaching expiry, rewarding long vega, long calendars.

    Question: Will tenor skew stay relatively static as a function of the imbedded forward variance(or other factors at play)?
     
    #384     Aug 1, 2006
  5. Thanks for the imput and charts Rally...I'm just trying to get my feet wet:)
     
    #385     Aug 1, 2006
  6. Prevail

    Prevail Guest

    simply getting the debit as small as possible. thnx.

     
    #386     Aug 1, 2006
  7. on 7/25 rolled up the 140Aug call to Sept 145 for a .45 credit

    today closed the put spread..BTC 125p debt .30

    STO 140/130 Sept P credit spread net credit 2.45 decided to tighten it up with OIH now over 145.
     
    #387     Aug 1, 2006
  8. In my opinion yes. I believe so. Unless the sp makes another run for the highs and stat vols stabilize.
     
    #388     Aug 1, 2006
  9. with OIH chugging higher this am I rolled the Sept 145 to Oct 150. this time a debt of .05 I've re-established the calendar with the Long 150 still Jan...Not feeling too wild about the trade but at least the Bull put credit spreads are doing well.
     
    #389     Aug 2, 2006
  10. 8/01 BTC 125AugP for .30 Booked profit of $2.80 ( 3.10-.30) X 20.. $5600 the 115 pts will expire worthless(I think)..loss will be .95X 20 ($1900) allowed the July 150 call to expire +5900 and BTC 5 Jan 150..net loss(4600)

    8/04 BTO 10Oct 140P @ 8.60

    WHY?

    Current Position: @=Mark

    +20 Aug 115P @.07 (1750)
    +20 Sep 130P @2.925 (1950)
    -20 Sep 140P @6.55 (4200)
    +10 Oct 140P @8.65 50
    -20 Oct 150C @5.95 8960
    +20Jan 150C @10.45 (11100)

    Delta 86.44 Gamma 1.86 Theta -35.9 Vega +459

    so I'm losing abt $36 per day and the biggest risk is I'm long vega so I would like some increase in volatility. I bought a put to be a little less delta long. The official option term of my current position I believe is called a Clusterf*ck:p

    when I looked at the TOS exp of margin which describes my position (as they see it). I have :

    a Long Oct/Jan (20)150 call (cal) vertical
    a Long Sep/Oct (10) 140 Put cal
    a Short (10) Sept 140/130 vertical
    a Long (20) Aug 115Put
    a Long (10) Sep 130 put

    The overall risk in the position is still outside my comfort zone but OIH does move dramatically at times and the near/intermediate bias on my part is that we will not see dramatic drops in the price of Oil thus the oil services should continue to have decent profits.

    I'm vowing not to mess with this mess until mid Sept.
    :confused:
     
    #390     Aug 6, 2006