Calendar Spreads

Discussion in 'Journals' started by gatorplease, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. I also have OIH calls with:
    short OIH Aug 160 Call
    short OIH Aug 170 Call
    short OIH Aug 175 call,
    long OIH Oct 170 Call
    short OIH Oct 175 Call
    long OIH Oct 180
    short OIH Oct 190

    and naked puts:
    OIH Jul 120 Put
    OIH Jul 125 Put
    OIH Aug 120 Put
     
    #341     Jul 18, 2006
  2. nlslax

    nlslax

    Rally,
    Good thoughts here, thanks for the input.
     
    #342     Jul 18, 2006
  3. same here thanks Rally...do you do call's puts or both?
     
    #343     Jul 18, 2006
  4. The board's alive again... :)

    Here are my current VIX positions:

    Feb/Jul 20
    Nov/Jul 20
    Feb20/Jul 17.5
    Feb 17.5/Jul 17.5

    I just couldn't pass up the great entry points, its like the VIX is scripted. The Feb 20 was only .10c more than the Nov 20.. well that was until this morning ?? One of my plays is Long Feb 17.5 at 2.05 and Short Jul 17.5 at 1.10.


    And that's why I'm taking a break from OIH. Your $$ goes much further with the VIX plays.
     
    #344     Jul 18, 2006
  5. Rich (and Rally too),

    A calendar spread on a cash settled European product (such as VIX options, www.cboe.com/micro/vix/VIXoptionsQRG.pdf) is a very different animal.
    The risk exposure to a possible whipsaw action is real and could be hurtful, though
    you might get lucky once or twice.

    Regards,
    Ben


     
    #345     Jul 18, 2006
  6. Thanks Ben...I'm going to be paper trading until I can really understand the VIX......
     
    #346     Jul 18, 2006
  7. I understand the risks or i wouldnt be trading it. I didnt mean to imply it was easy money in my post. However, i still like the risk profile given the current environment. Luck favors the prepared mind. :)
     
    #347     Jul 18, 2006
  8. Ben,

    Why would European options make a calendar spread riskier than American type options? I thought European options didn't have the risk of early exercise. Can you elaborate on this issue?
     
    #348     Jul 18, 2006
  9. You do know today is the last trading day for july right? are you rolling your 17.5 to aug? You probably opened that at the vix lows and now you can roll and scratch.

    If you keep doing these calendars i suggest you open them on the spikes(market selloffs) and push your short strikes as high as possible. If the vix makes a sharp move up, your longs wont gain much but due to the fact that the front months trade with the futures and are discounted to the actual VIX value, you can roll them out usually for a scratch.

    Of course, if we crash and vix spikes 30+, you will lose alot of edge on these ITM rolls. Also, we will be in a different ball game so size your risk accordingly.
     
    #349     Jul 18, 2006
  10. brad1970

    brad1970

    Just filled on Feb/Aug 15 @ $0.80.

    Looks good on ToS profit range appears to be $11 to $24 at Aug. expiration.

    Though I could and may be wrong.

     
    #350     Jul 18, 2006