calculate win probability . how i do this

Discussion in 'Options' started by Gimpyron, Nov 3, 2014.

  1. no im referring to nov 28 103
     
    #21     Nov 8, 2014
  2. they were nov 28. i put the order in on nov 3.
     
    #22     Nov 8, 2014
  3. FXforex

    FXforex





    You stated November 04 in your previous post. No way did you buy the BABA Nov28 103.00 calls at $2.28 on November 03 .



    :)
     
    #23     Nov 8, 2014
  4. ill confirm, but im 90% sure i put in the order monday night. nov 3.
     
    #24     Nov 8, 2014
  5. Sorry, I stand corrected. i entered the trade on nov 3 after close. The trade executed on nov 4 at approximately 9:30.
     
    #25     Nov 9, 2014
  6. Gimpyron

    Gimpyron

    Example for successful trade I made:

    Wrote on mondey, 10/27,

    The underlying: SPDR S&P 500 - SPY, Trade price: 195.71

    Expires 10/31 oct
    Buy Long leg= Call 186 for 10.03
    Sell Short leg = Call 190 for 6.15

    Bought this spr opt for 3.88 debit, with real value of 4 at expiration.

    Market closed on friday, 10/31, at 201.66.
    The both them expired already.

    I got to earn: 3.88/4 = 3.1% weekly.

    This is how i used to calculate my profits, with big consideration of IV. (sets the depth of ITM legs, the higher IV the deeper my spread)

    Any opinion sharing is welcome
     
    #26     Nov 10, 2014
  7. panzerman

    panzerman

    Delta can give you a rough idea of probability. For a more quantitative answer, use this formula (assuming a normal return distribution with no skew or kurtosis)

    X = exp(sigma*t*x)*S

    where

    X = future spot
    sigma = percent volatility
    t = sqrt(days 'til expiry/365)
    x = standard deviations
    S = current spot

    To find a given probability of your choosing, in Excel, use =normsdist(<your standard deviations here>).

    =normsdist(1.282) = 0.9
    =normsdist(-1.282) = 0.1

    The normsdist function calculates the area under the bell curve to the left of a given standard deviation value. Also, you can use 252 trading days instead of 365 calendar days if you prefer. The only "unknown" here is volatility, which is why volatility analysis is such a huge area of research.
     
    #27     Nov 10, 2014
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  8. FXforex

    FXforex




    Buying an ITM debit spread will be a losing position from entry to exit, no exceptions.



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    :)
     
    #28     Nov 10, 2014
  9. Gimpyron

    Gimpyron

    I dont understand why, my friend,

    I just Bought spr at 3.88 debit.
    After 5 days the spreads expire so i get 4 credit, 3.88\4 = 3.1%

    I dont mind what happends to the spread value during this 5 days as long as its not threatening getting
    into my short leg strike.
     
    #29     Nov 11, 2014
  10. If you are letting an ITM spread go to expiration don't you have exercise fees for each leg? Mine would be 15$ per leg which would wipe out profits for 2 of those spreads.
    I dunno...I always settle ITM positions before expiration. My options fee is 1.50 per lot so I would have to have on 11 spreads before it would be cheaper to let them expire.
     
    #30     Nov 12, 2014