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Discussion in 'Stocks' started by a529612, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. Bootsie

    Bootsie


    "and just protect the position through the options markets"

    --> this makes you a trader, not an investor.

    :D
     
    #61     Dec 12, 2007
  2. bgp

    bgp

    hello algo i'm not saying they are going out of business , did I??

    ITS A BEAR MARKET !

    BGP
     
    #62     Dec 12, 2007
  3. Is it? You must mean a bear market in C.

    Right?

    If so, I'm not sure that has anything to do with what value investors attempt to do. Typically they are starting to accumulate positions while the bear market appears to be intact.

    Right?
     
    #63     Dec 12, 2007
  4. bgp

    bgp

    but why buy c when its in a bear market ?

    bgp
     
    #64     Dec 12, 2007
  5. because you believe you'll be able to sell it higher in the future?
     
    #65     Dec 12, 2007
  6. What value investors routinely attempt to do is pick a bottom. What generally happens is they catch a falling knife. They buy WAY TOO early and the stock falls further and they become bag holders. Then they average down. The stock very often crashes, the company ends up in bankruptcy. The stock almost always wallows away for months very often years. They rarely factor in the time value of money into their investments.
    That is the common flaw many value investors share. Always way too early.
    The smart value investors DON'T buy when stocks are falling and in a down trend. Why because you never know how far they will fall. They wait for the light at the end of the tunnel. They wait for the stock to reverse direction and sacrifice a few points in lieu of safety. They wait for the light at the end of the tunnel as far as the fundamentals and stay on the sidelines patiently watching and waiting for the proper reversals in the fundaments and technicals to occur.
    As far as C is concerned and the financials and mortgage co's....you don't know what is out there. Lots of risk and surprises to happen in the coming months. It is just rookie novice value investors buying them now.
    Smart money is patiently watching and waiting. Todays price action is a good lesson.

    That's smart value investing 101.
    You're welcome.


     
    #66     Dec 12, 2007
  7. bgp

    bgp

    thanks,
    bgp
     
    #67     Dec 12, 2007
  8. How much dividend cut are they pricing in C now?
     
    #68     Dec 13, 2007
  9. Value investors don’t normally buy stocks going into bankruptcy in the future. Of course nobody knows the bottom so they normally buy small amounts at a time to average the low price.
     
    #69     Dec 13, 2007
  10. Can we have a show of hands here who believe Citigroup will file for bankruptcy within the next 2 years or so?
     
    #70     Dec 13, 2007