Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Vespasian, Sep 16, 2009.
Ignore the media
Ignore the volume
Ignore the fundamentals
Ignore the technicals
JUST BUY NOW !
Are you going to do it, or just talk about it?
agreed all in on margin as well long the strong! See how it does by Xmas...
where do you think you are on this scale right now?
I really love that cartoon! Food for thought for sure
You do realize that cartoon is from a CFP = Certified Financial Planner
Now that's funny
Surely this market cannot go on like this for an extended time. But by saying that my account is extremely bullish while philosophically I lean towards the bear side of things. When everything I buy is showing massive profits I began to think the end this run just might be over.
Reduce your exposure near the end of Q3. Earnings will not be good. Adobe missed by 8 cents yesterday, no mention. Kroger missed as well, no mention in the news.
The pull back by consumers will be reflected in earnings sooner or later.
The market is priceing in a big recovery, be ready to bail at a moments notice.
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Bank of America Corp and Citigroup Inc customers defaulted on their credit card debts in August at the highest rates since the onset of the recession, a sign that the banks' consumer lending woes are far from over.
The trend was echoed among most other major credit card issuers, dashing optimism sparked when many banks and specialty finance companies reported lower default rates for July.
"People have gotten very bullish with the July data, and (the August data) raises the question about how fast the consumer will get better," said Scott Valentin, an analyst at FBR Capital Markets. "People were assuming the pace would be pretty rapid, and this maybe slows the pace down."
The worse-than-expected August numbers bolstered the contention of some analysts that the July decline in defaults was due more to seasonal effects, like tax refunds, then an improvement in consumers' financial health.
Many analysts expect bad-loan levels will keep rising until later this year or early 2010.
"The defaults are a wake-up call for those expecting a V-shaped recovery," said Elliot Spar, options market strategist at Stifel Nicolaus & Co.
Bank of America said its charge off-rate -- loans the company does not expect to be repaid -- rose to 14.54 percent in August from 13.81 percent in July.
Citigroup, the largest issuer of MasterCard-branded credit cards, said its charge-off rate rose to 12.14 percent in August from 10.03 percent in July.
The charge-off rates for both Citi and Bank of America, two of the biggest recipients of U.S. government bailouts, were the highest yet during the financial crisis.
JPMorgan Chase & Co, the largest issuer of Visa-branded credit cards, said its charge-off rate rose to 8.73 percent from 7.92 percent, while smaller Discover Financial Services said its rate rose to 9.16 percent from 8.43 percent.
American Express Co's default rate fell to 8.5 percent from 8.9 percent as the company increased its lending portfolio.
JPMorgan, Discover and Capital One Financial Corp reported late payments on credit cards -- an indicator of future defaults -- rose in August after several monthly declines.
Valentin said the rise in delinquencies at some companies was double or triple the levels expected.
NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET
Credit card defaults usually track unemployment, which rose to a 26-year high of 9.7 percent in August. The jobless rate is expected to peak at more than 10 percent by year-end. Continued...
Higher and higher baby, it's a living thing.....
For those of you that remember ELO
Everythings shot its wad.
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