Buy Gold, Sell Stocks Is the ‘Trade of Century’ Says One Hedge Fund

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by srinir, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. sle

    sle

    which leg do you think will get crushed? Personally, I'd venture that the long gold trade is not where it's at, but I am kinda agreeing that equities might be a sell here.
     
    #11     Mar 24, 2019
  2. destriero

    destriero


    It's going to hurt tomorrow on all three trades; long gold, short $, short index.
     
    #12     Mar 24, 2019
  3. sle

    sle

    well, tomorrow is a day, i am thinking longer horizon - let's say to the end of year?
     
    #13     Mar 24, 2019
  4. destriero

    destriero


    My IRA is 40% allocated to a SPX bear diagonal. No deltas to speak of at the moment but I'll accumulate (20K) deltas by the end of June (say SPX @ 2850). I plan on committing most of my taxable account to the same, but I won't receive a credit as with the IRA fill.

    I will be wildly bearish on any closing print above 2905.
     
    #14     Mar 24, 2019
  5. sle

    sle

    So your intuition is that we shall see a melt-up before we get on with a melt-down? In some ways, that's sensible given how underinvested the institutionals are at these levels
     
    #15     Mar 24, 2019
  6. destriero

    destriero

    Yes.

    I am only looking for 100 upside before I'd increase size, but (politically-driven) we could trade to 3020 this year. I'm not ready to increase size.

    I have a lot of 50-wide long bear diagonals in my IRA at a credit (520 contracts). My only "long term" trade prior to this was my Jan/Mar 2019 2900/3000 diagonal from early October 2018.
     
    #16     Mar 24, 2019
  7. srinir

    srinir

    Retail has pulled out lot of money since last year. If the Instituionals also under-invested then what was the reason for the melt-up since beginning of the year.

    Recent ICI flows.

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    #17     Mar 24, 2019
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  8. srinir

    srinir

    I was just reporting the news.

    Going long gold mining is not the same as investing in Gold. All your other option is fine, if you want to be long in gold. Gold Etf has tax issues if you are US investor, Futures or Gold options would be my bet, if i want to be in long Gold.
     
    #18     Mar 24, 2019
  9. dozu888

    dozu888

    If you play on my team. Aka the pro team. We never carry the dumb money to heaven. Just look how long retail is on gold.
     
    #19     Mar 24, 2019
  10. clacy

    clacy

    I think Gold will be a great long term trade, but not yet. I think equities run up for another year or two before Gold takes off
     
    #20     Mar 24, 2019