Buy and Hold Work?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by MingWu, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. "Buy and Hold" chart:

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    A lot of pain and suffering for about 0% gain in 8 years. The cash in the mattress would perform with a much higher Sharpe's ratio.
     
    #21     Feb 15, 2007
  2. buy & hold big cap strategy obviously.. a chart of the s&p will do.
     
    #22     Feb 15, 2007
  3. Large cap is a little better, but still negative return in the last 7 years (on the S&P 500).
     
    #23     Feb 15, 2007
  4. You need timing and finding value to buy and hold.... and a little detail: a broad bull market in your future.

    Usually the people who looks for buy and hold doesn't know shit about value, they do buy and hold because is easy to take one time call and seat to wait..

    You could have bought MSFT 15 years ago and now you will be rich.
    You could have MSFT, or SP, or Nasdaq on the first dip on the 2000 (thinking you're buying a dip on value stuff) and you probably are down or down vs. inflation after 7 years.

    So, the points is that everything is relative on this business and there is not such stupid stuff like "buy anything,no matter where, finally it will go up because god wants to"

    A little change on the long-term bias and you know what... you're stuck like a fool at highs... it happens all the time...
     
    #24     Feb 15, 2007
  5. fusionz

    fusionz

    buy and hold can work but you can't be the type to keep looking at the market everyday, you have to be disciplined and also diversify, its very foolish to just be the SP500 and think you're diversified.
     
    #25     Feb 15, 2007
  6. MingWu

    MingWu

    do you mean, you buy and hold only stocks in the SP500? what about Dow Nasday are they good too?
     
    #26     Feb 17, 2007
  7. MingWu

    MingWu

    My friend bought MSFT and now he is a millionaire
     
    #27     Feb 17, 2007
  8. Are you referencing Bill Miller and Legg Mason Value Trust? Even that can have dismal years.... ie last year...
     
    #28     Feb 17, 2007
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    It can work [''buy & hold work]'';
    with a selling plan, real estate for example.

    It can work ;
    with a private company ,you work, dont have to sell company.

    Another way it can work, have a selling plan and even if you bough MSFT or QQQQ at the all time top of the charts,it still could work anyway, if had enough money or time;
    or were better diversified. Or better,all of the above.
    :cool:
     
    #29     Feb 17, 2007
  10. Wrong. Exactly 40,000 :D
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    #30     Feb 17, 2007