Bush's Plan to conquer...errrr.....liberate Iraq

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OPTIONAL777, Jan 6, 2003.

  1. Atomic, shomic. Was fission taking place? I'm calling them nukes.:cool:

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    #61     Jan 14, 2003
  2. For all we know, he's sitting in Hamburg in some roach-infested apartment, pizza delivery boxes everywhere, sitting at some table strewn with diagrams, chemical formulas, microscopes, and TNT, reading "Suicide Bombing For Dummies" & the CliffsNotes edition of "I Hate America, a How-To-Primer" co-authored by Fairplay, Madison, & Candle.

    He's been avoiding this forever. I wonder why....

    So Wild, come out, come out wherever you are and tell us......
     
    #62     Jan 14, 2003
  3. wild

    wild

    Quote from max401:
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    Dresden was an incendiary bombing attack- on military targets. Unfortunately, severe winds spread the fires beyond the intended target areas.
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    Churchill said:

    "The destruction of Dresden remains a serious query against the conduct of Allied bombing. I am of the opinion that military objectives must henceforward be more strictly studied....I feel the need for more precise concentration upon military objectives such as oil and communications behind the immediate battle-zone, rather than on mere acts of terror and wanton destruction however impressive."

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    US "precision bombing" vs. British "area bombing"

    US General Carl Spaatz opposed the entire concept of bombing cities. The U.S. bomber boss said he did not want to be "tarred" with the aftermath-the recriminations that would surely follow after the War. Despite Spaatz's intentions, however, the distinction between British area bombing and US precision bombing was not all that clear. When bad weather prevented the sighting of a target, the American bombardiers resorted to blind bombing, using newly developed radar devices like those employed at night by the British. Bombs dropped by radar-a method exploited at least in part during about 80 percent of the American raids in the last three months of 1944-sprayed all over the area, spreading destruction far from the refinery or railway marshaling yard that was the specific target. On the average, fewer than one third of the bombs fell within 1,000 feet of the target.

    Target Dresden

    Moreover, early in 1945, after Hitler's Ardennes offensive had shaken Allied confidence in the likelihood of an early end to the War, there was increasing pressure on Spaatz to come up with some decisive blow from the air. In this atmosphere of impatience and frustration, Spaatz abandoned his usual stance. On February 3, 1945, he sent nearly 1,000 bombers against Berlin. Perhaps 25,000 Berliners died in that raid. An even deadlier attack on another city soon followed. On February 13 and 14, British and American bombers raided Dresden, 100 miles south of Berlin. The destruction of Dresden became the symbol of the air war's final months of terror from the sky.

    The lack of defenses

    What made the Dresden attack so extraordinarily destructive was a combination of circumstances. There was virtually no opposition; the city's antiaircraft guns had been removed the previous month and sent to the Russian front, and though a unit of Me - 110 night fighters was based only five miles away, the fuel shortage was now so acute that the pilots were forbidden to take off without authorization from division headquarters. The authorization came too late, and the pilots had to sit in their planes on the runway and watch Dresden burn.

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    regards

    wild
     
    #63     Jan 14, 2003
  4. By now, Wild's bibliography must be 100 pages long. Make sure you reference your sources or you might be accused of plagiarism!
     
    #64     Jan 14, 2003
  5. Hey, wild, do you think those German pilots did a "Sieg Heil!" to their omnipotent Führer on that day?

    Here's what one of Hitler's henchmen thought of the situation:

    "At first Goebbels refused to believe that Dresden had been destroyed, then wept. When at last he found voice it was to castigate Goring. 'What a burden of guilt this parasite has brought on his head for his slackness and interest in his own comfort. Why didn't the Führer listen to my earlier warnings?' Hitler reserved his ire for the British and American fliers who had dropped the bombs, yet rejected Goebbels' suggestion that the Allied air force prisoners be executed in retaliation."

    Source: Adolph Hitler by John Toland, p.1165

    London, 1940; 5 years prior to Dresden:

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    #65     Jan 14, 2003
  6. wild

    wild

    #66     Jan 15, 2003
  7. Internet polls are invalid, and those who use them to support their opinions are using invalid and weak arguments in the process.

    I categorize them as "yellow internet journalists" practicing "yellow internet journalism."

    Just more weak propaganda from a weak repetitive mind.
     
    #67     Jan 15, 2003
  8. wild

    wild

    The U.S. Needs to Open Up to the World
    By BRIAN ENO

    To this European, America is trapped in a fortress of arrogance and ignorance


    Europeans have always looked at America with a mixture of fascination and puzzlement, and now, increasingly, disbelief. How is it that a country that prides itself on its economic success could have so many very poor people? How is it that a country so insistent on the rule of law should seek to exempt itself from international agreements? And how is it that the world's beacon of democracy can have elections dominated by wealthy special interest groups? For me, the question has become: "How can a country that has produced so much cultural and economic wealth act so dumb?"
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    full article at http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2003/0120/cover/view_eno.html

    regards

    wild
     
    #68     Jan 15, 2003
  9. Oh ya, Brian Eno...the intellectual.....

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    How about some quotes from other noted British statesmen, like Boy George, Elton John, and other queens of the realm...

    Now that it is "fashionable" for the artistic community to take shots at America, expect to hear from Adam Ant any day now...

    Since when haven't the jealous euros taken shots at Americans?
     
    #69     Jan 15, 2003
  10. Oh brother... Wild, you have the gall to quote this bozo? Here is the first part of an interview with Eno circa 1974, I couldn't read any further:

    "Chrissie Hynde (1974) New Musical Express February 02: Pages 24 and 29

    It was with a certain apprehensive curiosity that I first noticed the brown lace-up shoes. He displayed a normalcy that I just couldn't trust. After all, I'd seen his photos and I knew I was dealing with no ordinary deviant.

    Yet the toned-down reserve, the limp handshake (handshake?) and the nice-guy inoffensiveness had me baffled. He just didn't come on like someone who keeps an extensive collection of breast bondage literature in the bathroom.

    I mean, what do you say to this guy? "Oh hi Eno .... Hear you shaved off your pubic hair?" He answers the door wearing a red satin kimono and black dress pants. We pass through the dimly-lit hallway to a large white room which consists entirely of a lit candle, two pillows, tape recorder and beige carpet.

    "Carpeting gives you a whole new outlook on life, you don't need furniture."

    Eno's voice has absolutely nothing in common with the vocal tracks on Here Come The Warm Jets, his forthcoming L.P.

    His pronunciation is that of a soft-spoken gentleman. His singing is not unlike the shriek of a hare that's just caught an air gun pellet up the ass.

    Given only the minutest amount of prompting, he will talk non-stop for hours. In this case, the mere mention of his vocal techniques sets him off. "
     
    #70     Jan 15, 2003