Sorry to add another thread, but this is really unbelievable. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=axb_haAIXhYs&refer=home Paulson Rescue Proposal Is `Crazy,' Predecessor O'Neill Says By Brendan Murray Oct. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill said the $700 billion bank-rescue proposal under negotiation in Washington is ``crazy,'' with potentially ``awful'' consequences for the world's largest economy. ``Doesn't this seem like lunacy to you?'' said O'Neill, who was President George W. Bush's first Treasury chief, from 2001 to 2002, in a telephone interview today. ``The consequences of it are unbelievably bad in terms of public intrusion into the private sector.'' O'Neill's objections mirror those of Republicans in the House of Representatives who rejected the plan in a Sept. 29 vote. The former Treasury chief said he's lobbying for an alternative solution that would offer guarantees for troubled assets, stopping short of purchasing the debt. ``Is anybody thinking there?'' asked O'Neill, who also served as deputy budget director in the Ford administration. ``It's too late, it's not going to make any difference and it's aggravating as hell when there's a better idea and you can't even get it in play,'' he said, recognizing little success so far in pitching his own proposal. O'Neill, 72, was fired after an almost two-year tenure marked by strains with White House officials and comments that roiled markets. His plan to deal with the crisis would start with a ``discounted cash-flow analysis'' of distressed instruments that are clogging the financial system. The government would guarantee the assets, paring back the support as principal and interest payments were made, he said. Liquidity Boost ``That should take care of the liquidity problem because if they have a government guarantee at a specified level they should trade just like cash,'' O'Neill said. He likened his solution to the Treasury's decision Sept. 19 to guarantee domestic money-market funds for a year to try to stop a run on what traditionally have been among the safest of investments. To replenish capital in banks, the government should make 20-year loans to institutions and charge 2 percentage points above the government's borrowing rate, he said. Regulators could count the loans as part of the banks' capital base, he added. Paying the premium would give banks an incentive to retire the government loans faster, he said. O'Neill said he has shopped his ideas to congressional leaders including Joint Economic Committee Chairman Charles Schumer; Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd; and Senator Richard Shelby, the ranking Republican on the Banking Committee. Lobbying Lawmakers ``I honestly don't think they really understand it and they're so much in a bubble that it's impossible to penetrate it,'' he said. Meanwhile, the Senate is set to vote tonight on a modified version of the $700 billion rescue plan the House rejected two days ago. The House may vote again Oct. 3. ``If they pass this thing, it's awful what the consequences are going to be in terms of an ongoing federal relationship that doesn't need to exist with the institutions,'' O'Neill said. ``Are we going to insist on having a federal representative on boards of directors to protect our investment?'' The main component of the legislation now under consideration is giving the Treasury secretary authority to purchase distressed mortgage-related assets with an amount of money equivalent to about half of Canada's annual gross domestic product. ``We have no capacity in the federal government and it's not possible to create a capacity to manage a $700 billion property portfolio,'' he said. ``It's crazy. It's like we've lost our moorings.''
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Why not......the american public is a "lay down"! :eek: "lay down" - (term used by car dealers when they pop a lady buyer at full gross.....they layed her down and raped her financially).
I've been saying the same thing too idahook. Pensions, municipalities, the next wave of mortgage defaults.....
Once its open.... Merriam-Webster - Spigot Main Entry: spig·ot Pronunciation: \ˈspi-gət, -kət\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English Date: 14th century 1 a: spile 2 b: the plug of a faucet or cock c: faucet 2: something resembling a spigot especially in regulating availability or flow (as of money) ......who can stop it? Asking a politician to stop easy money flow is like asking a junkie to stop shooting up when he has felt he had enough.
No question the $700B will not be enough, more like double that amount will be needed before this is all over though it may not all come from the US, looks like other countries are starting to get involved too. Europe/Asia per the WSJ today, Ireland stepped up in a big way.
If they ask for more money in the next decade, the public will be close to "revolutionary" and heads will roll. I actually think this may be the wake up call that the country has been needing that shows just how out of control our government really is with spending.
I'm glad most reasonable people here can agree we are f%#ked if we keep swallowing this bullshit, regardless of any differences we may have in some other areas. It's past the point of being worthy of just complaining about this. I am not going to absorb Nigel's default on his Hampton summer home, and I"m equally opposed to taking the hit because Chiquita couldn't pay her Rent-A-Center bill. *No racism or discrimination is intended - extreme names were used to highlight my unbiased opposition to saving anyone's ass who got in over their head financially. They did themselves in.