Bush Resurrects the Domino Theory to Rationalize Iraq War

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ZZZzzzzzzz, Sep 2, 2006.

  1. Yes, the plan starts with step 1, removal of Bush, Rumsy, Cheney, and the neocons.

    Those are the clowns who got us into this mess, they are not the ones to get us out, or solve the problem.

    What about incompetence don't you understand?


     
    #11     Sep 4, 2006
  2. Afghanistan? c'mon now...

    Iraq, of course its important not to fail... most of this cld've been avoided imo if the French hadn't allowed Saddam to play divisions within the Security Council, but whats done is done... but as for now, its clear that nobody's going to help the Bush admin succeed and take an ounce of credit for stabilizing Iraq, and rightly so... isn't it the same admin who said F*CK OFF to the ABM treaty and built up the most aggressive (nuclear etc) military posture in decades, said F*CK OFF to the ICC, the Kyoto protocol, etc etc

    sorry say again, u want our support now? :p :p :p yeah of course u have it... DEEP UP THE ARSE that is...

    [​IMG]
     
    #12     Sep 4, 2006


  3. That is obviously never going to happen. So rather than bitch about it, start forming a plan for the next election.

    The Dems are already bribing Hill not to run (offering the Senate leadership). So that leaves Edwards I think. If you listen to SouthAmerica its Gore (won't happen, no money).

    So push these guys instead of beating a dead horse. No matter how much you bitch, Bush is not going to be impeached, and Rumsy is only going if Bush wants him to (although I am with you and would love to see him gone).

    Then you have the right. I think its a race between McCain and Romney. The Dems are in such disarray that one of these latter guys might actually win. Even with the Iraq fiasco.

    BTW, I am independent. Used to be a Republican, but no longer. They are now on the spending bandwagon.
     
    #13     Sep 4, 2006
  4. Bush has to go.

    It takes a new seed to yield a new crop, and the seed of Bush Sr. is nothing but a patch of weeds...

     
    #14     Sep 4, 2006
  5. As I recall, that was the "kerry plan" as well. Let a guy who sided with the enemy against our own soldiers run our defense. Ahh, no, I don't think so. And the democrats still don't understand why ordinary people don't trust themwith defending the country.

    Bottom line, other than whine about Bush, your side has no plan and their irresponsible attacks on our troops leave them with no credibility either.
     
    #15     Sep 4, 2006
  6. [​IMG]

    too fkn funny, thanks i needed the laugh.
     
    #16     Sep 4, 2006
  7. Those same "ordinary" people are now waking up from their 9/11 induced stupor to see that Bush is a moron who cannot be trusted.

    Or are you going to deny every single poll out there...

     
    #17     Sep 4, 2006
  8. September 4, 2006

    The President

    The White House

    Washington, D.C.

    Dear Mr. President:

    Over one month ago, we wrote to you about the war in Iraq. In the face of escalating violence, increasing instability in the region, and an overall strain on our troops that has reduced their readiness to levels not seen since Vietnam, we called upon you to change course and adopt a new strategy to give our troops and the Iraqi people the best chance for success.

    Although you have not responded to our letter, we surmise from your recent press conferences and speeches that you remain committed to maintaining an open-ended presence of U.S. forces in Iraq for years to come. That was the message the American people received on August 21, 2006, when you said, "we're not leaving [Iraq], so long as I'm the President."

    Unfortunately, your stay the course strategy is not working. In the five-week period since writing to you, over 60 U.S. soldiers and Marines have been killed, hundreds of U.S. troops have been wounded, many of them grievously, nearly 1,000 Iraqi civilians have died, and the cost to the American taxpayer has grown by another $8 billion dollars. Even the administration's most recent report to Congress on Measuring Stability and Security in Iraq indicates that security trends in Iraq are deteriorating, and likely to continue to worsen for the foreseeable future. With daily attacks against American and Iraqi troops at close to their highest levels since the start of the war, and sectarian violence intensifying, we can only conclude that our troops are caught in the middle of a low-grade civil war that is getting worse.

    Meanwhile, the costs of a failed Iraq policy to our military and our security have been staggering. As you know, not a single Army non-deployed combat brigade is currently prepared to meet its wartime mission, and the Marine Corps faces equally urgent equipment and personnel shortages. Lieutenant General Blum, the National Guard Bureau Chief, has stated that the National Guard is "even further behind or in an even more dire situation than the active Army." Your recent decision to involuntarily recall thousands of Marines to active duty to serve in Iraq is but the latest confirmation of the strain this war has placed on our troops. At the same time, the focus on Iraq and the toll it has taken on our troops and on our diplomatic capabilities has diverted our attention from other national security challenges and greatly constrained our ability to deal with them.

    In short, Mr. President, this current path - for our military, for the Iraqi people, and for our security - is neither working, nor making us more secure.

    Therefore, we urge you once again to consider changes to your Iraq policy. We propose a new direction, which would include: (1) transitioning the U.S. mission in Iraq to counter-terrorism, training, logistics and force protection; (2) beginning the phased redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq before the end of this year; (3) working with Iraqi leaders to disarm the militias and to develop a broad-based and sustainable political settlement, including amending the Constitution to achieve a fair sharing of power and resources; and (4) convening an international conference and contact group to support a political settlement in Iraq, to preserve Iraq's sovereignty, and to revitalize the stalled economic reconstruction and rebuilding effort. These proposals were outlined in our July 30th letter and are consistent with the "U.S. Policy in Iraq Act" you signed into law last year.

    We also think there is one additional measure you can take immediately to demonstrate that you recognize the problems your policies have created in Iraq and elsewhere -consider changing the civilian leadership at the Defense Department. From the failure to deploy sufficient numbers of troops at the start of the war or to adequately equip them, to the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib, to disbanding the Iraqi military, to the failure to plan for the post-war occupation, the Administration's mistakes have taken a toll on our troops and our security. It is unacceptable to dismiss the concerns of military personnel and their families when they are affected by the consequences of these failures, as the Secretary of Defense recently did in Alaska by suggesting that volunteers should not complain about having their deployments extended. While a change in your Iraq policy will best advance our chances for success, we do not believe the current civilian leadership at the Department of Defense is suited to implement and oversee such a change in policy.

    Mr. President, staying the course in Iraq has not worked and continues to divert resources and attention from the war on terrorism that should be the nation's top security priority. We hope you will consider the recommendations for change that we have put forward. We want to work with you in finding a way forward that honors the enormous sacrifice of our troops and promotes U.S. national security interests in the region. We believe our plan will achieve those goals.

    Thank you for your consideration of our views.

    Harry Reid, Senate Democratic Leader
    Nancy Pelosi, House Democratic Leader
    Dick Durbin, Senate Assistant Democratic Leader
    Steny Hoyer, House Minority Whip
    Carl Levin, Ranking Member, Senate Armed Services Committee
    Ike Skelton, Ranking Member, House Armed Services Committee
    Joe Biden, Ranking Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
    Tom Lantos, Ranking Member, House International Relations Committee
    Jay Rockefeller, Vice Chairman, Senate Intelligence Committee
    Jane Harman, Ranking Member, House Intelligence Committee
    Daniel Inouye, Ranking Member, Senate Defense Appropriations Subcommittee
    John Murtha, Ranking Member, House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/09/04/dem-leaders-send-bush-new_n_28676.html
     
    #18     Sep 4, 2006
  9. TINKY WINKY IS NOT HAPPY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    #19     Sep 4, 2006
  10. maxpi

    maxpi

    Here is the left's plan to deal with Islamo Fascism: let them pick off countries one by one, like Spain, and soon enough France, then when nobody is left to fight let them drive your culture back to the 10th century. What is so hard about that?
     
    #20     Sep 4, 2006