Bingo! The message being sent by the lib MSM and many Dims is, "We think we want to catch the terrorists, but we don't want to watch them." The geiger-counter monitoring story is just another example. The more the Democrats make an issue of this, the worse they look when it comes to national security issues. This is really going to bite them in the ass when elections roll around. Normally I'd be ecstatic about another Dim jackass moment, but as we're dealing with national security, it just pisses me off.
And I will answer you once again - if an AQ operative is talking to an american - go get a fucking warrant. If you can't get it before you started spying then get it 3 days later. And if you can't get it in three days and/or your warrant is denied by the judge - you have no fucking case, if the judge did not believe you were spying on an AQ operative - no reasonable person would either. Warrantless spying on americans is not part of president's constitutional power. Go live in China or Cuba if you believe it should be.
And how do you know that he is not or will not do it tomorrow? Who watches him, who makes sure he's not abusing his "wiretapping" powers, have you ever heard of checks and balances? That's the whole fucking point, we have no idea who and based on what information he is wiretapping. You trust him [blindly] and I don't and I don't have to and I should not, I am just doing my fucking civic duty making sure that our government is accountable and transparent, the civic duty that you betrayed for the sake of your fucking republican party loyalty. What a disgrace.
You don't like the laws, appeal for them to be changed. The law is what it is, and IMO no crime was committed. Since you're obviously very emotional and frustrated, perhaps it's better to let this end here. And if the US is fast becoming another Cuba, China, or dictatorial nation via fascism, why should any of us move? Merry Christmas.
One must wonder why dddooo and the other libs don't get this upset about the numerous other instances of warrantless searches Americans undergo every day. Ah, because if it doesn't attack Bush it isn't worth attacking...
This really is the bottomline of this issue. For some unknown reason that has yet to be explained by the White House and the Bush Administration, the FISA Court was circumvented. And as I asked in an earlier post that not one Bush supporter has been able to answer . . . why even have a FISA Court if the President has the constitutional power to avoid a legal procedure that is so inherent in our Democracy of checks and balances? And for what it's worth, Arlen Spector isn't the only Republican that has a problem with the White House in this issue. The Republican Senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham also takes issue with Bush circumventing the FISA Court. As I recall, he was a Staff Judge Advocate during the first Gulf War.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, Bush and administration officials have stated that FISA continues to be an important tool and often utilized.