Bush pisses off 9/11 victims trying to get re-elected...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bungrider, Mar 4, 2004.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I say let moveon.org run all the negative adds they want. The more they run, the more they hurt the democrats. Americans simply do not respond to hate. They never have, they never will. Let George Soros spend a billion dollars on moveon.org. I'll be happy when that man is completely broke. I really really hope the democrats run on hate. Please oh please run on hate, that will make this election so much easier for us.
     
    #91     Mar 7, 2004
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    ART, I love it, the more ads they run like this, the easier it is for Bush. If you think watching these corny ads swings votes, I have some nice swampland to sell you in Florida. What does swing votes is when you talk about the issues and what you propose to do about them. Point out the problem and then explain how you would solve it.

    The problem is when you resort to character attacks, it makes the voter think that the other side has no solutions. That this is what they have to resort to. Fine by me, like I said, if moveon.org or Kerry don't run ads saying exactly what he plans to do to solve our nations problems, well, this race won't be close.

    A lot of people in this country may not like Bush, but at least they know where he stands and what he is going to do. Nobody is going to elect someone with no solid ideas on how to improve this country. Sorry.
     
    #93     Mar 7, 2004
  3. Saturday, March 6, 2004 12:08 p.m. EST
    Heinz Foundation Bankrolled Group Protesting Bush 9/11 Ads

    The group Peaceful Tomorrows, which bills itself as an independent group of 9/11 victim families and whose members have led the charge to force the Bush re-election campaign to yank ads citing the Twin Towers attacks, has direct financial ties to the Heinz Foundation, the charitable trust administered by the wife of likely Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

    On its Web site, Peaceful Tomorrows identifies itself as "a project of the Tides Center, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization."

    A December 2003 report in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review detailed the financial relationship between the Tides Center and the charitable foundation controlled by Mrs. Heinz Kerry:

    "Known as the Tides Center for Pennsylvania, formerly the Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania, it is a creation of the Tides Foundation and Center, headquartered in San Francisco, and two Pennsylvania-based foundations – the Vira Heinz Endowment and the Howard Heinz Endowment – chaired by Teresa Heinz Kerry."

    According to the Tribune-Review, Mrs. Heinz Kerry funneled millions of dollars into the parent group of Peaceful Tomorrows:

    "Between 1995 and 2001, $4.3 million of that money came from the Howard Heinz Endowment. In 2002, it and the Vira Heinz Endowment blessed The Tides Center, a San Francisco spin-off of the Tides Foundation, with another $190,000 while the two endowments gave $1.6 million to the new Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania," the paper revealed.

    Though the Tribune-Review report was first unearthed by researchers on FreeRepublic.com within 36 hours of the inception of the Bush ad controversy, the mainstream press has been slow to pick up on Peaceful Tomorrows' anti-Bush pedigree. The group, for instance, has long been active in opposing U.S. involvement in Iraq.

    Still, PT's political portfolio escaped the notice of the Washington Post, which described the group as "nonpartisan" on Thursday.

    Other mainstream outlets repeatedly quoted PT members without revealing their anti-Bush agenda.

    Comments by PT's leader, Colleen Kelly, have been prominently covered by the Associated Press, the Boston Globe and in dozens of other press reports complaining about the Bush ads. None of the reports mentioned PT's money ties to Heinz Kerry.

    Andrew Rice, another prominent member of PT, has been quoted in the New York Times and has appeared on MSNBC, again without a single reference to his group's Heinz Foundation funding.

    Besides Peaceful Tomorrows, other Tides grant recipients include the Iraq Peace Fund, which has helped bankroll anti-war marches, and MoveOn.org, which featured a campaign ad in November comparing President Bush to Hitler.
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    Gotta love those concerned damn dems.
     
    #94     Mar 7, 2004
  4. Posted on Sun, Mar. 07, 2004

    With leaders like this, who needs comedians?

    By Molly Ivins

    Creators Syndicate


    So the Democrats have a candidate at last, and he is about bent over double with gravitas.

    I think that means he doesn't have a humorous bone in his body. It's a good thing there's at least one serious person in this race; the Bushies are getting sillier and sillier.

    Just when you thought no one could top Education Secretary Rod Paige calling the teachers' union "a terrorist organization," along comes Veep Dick Cheney with this gem: "If Democratic policies had been pursued over the last two to three years, the kind of tax increases both Kerry and Edwards are talking about, we would not have had the kind of job growth that we've had."

    Uh, in the first place, Kerry and Edwards are not talking about tax increases at all but about repealing part of President Bush's tax cuts -- so we would have had fewer tax cuts, not tax increases. And in the second place, if losing 2.3 million jobs is "job growth," Cheney is a laugh riot.

    We've got a $500 billion deficit this year, and Bush's idea of a solution is to make his tax cuts permanent -- a move that would cost about $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years.

    Their other helpful suggestion is to redefine burger-flipping as "manufacturing jobs." (Are these people never serious?) And if they can't redefine the problem out of existence, there's always the option of just announcing that bad is good.

    Think how surprised we were to learn from Gregory Mankiw, chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisers: "Outsourcing is just a new way of doing international trade. … More things are tradable than were tradable in the past, and that's a good thing."

    I also like the dodge where Bush claims that the reason there's a $500 billion deficit is because "we're at war." Unfortunately, the cost of Iraq is not even included in the budget. It's going to be a supplemental surprise request after the election.

    Does any of this strike you as grown-up behavior? Or even grown-up-behavior-related program activities?

    The dramatic-upward-cost surprise is getting to be a regular feature with the Bushies. Congress and the prez passed a horrible Medicare drug bill and then, oops, a week later announced that it cost $134 billion more than the advertised $400 billion. That's a 33 percent oops.

    You may consider it churlish of me to still be holding a grudge because at least 45 percent of Bush's tax cuts went to the richest 1 percent of the people in this country, but it's the kind of thing I get reminded of frequently. For example, the news that 375,000 people exhausted their unemployment in January, the highest number ever recorded for a single month, reminds me of that top 1 percent.

    Then we had gladsome tidings last month that Bush would appoint an "independent commission" to find out why the Bush administration kept telling us that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to al Qaeda. This commission to investigate "intelligence failures" is co-chaired by Judge Laurence Silberman, a passionate, partisan, right-wing Republican who remained a right-wing political activist even while serving on the bench.

    One symptom of the fundamental unseriousness of the Bushies is that they never, ever admit they are wrong. Nor do they pay penalties for being wrong. What do you have to do to get fired in that outfit?

    They canned Paul O'Neill for telling the truth -- that seems to be fatal. On the other hand, when CIA Director George Tenet said that intelligence analysts "never said there was an imminent threat" from Iraq, he wasn't cashiered -- they just pretended they didn't hear him.

    It is already a truism that this will be an event-driven election, and the spiraling chaos in Haiti and the horrendous coordinated bombings in Iraq remind us that it is good to have grown-ups in charge when serious things happen.

    Look at it this way: Even with a couple of bores like Kerry and Cheney talking for the rest of the year (with Bush, you get the occasional Bushism), at least it won't be as boring as this year's Oscars.


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    #95     Mar 7, 2004
  5. Are you kdding me!!!! There is a segment of America on the right that responds very much to HATE! Just listen to all the right-wing whacko talk shows on the AM dial, they drip with venom, they spew evil, vile hatred all day, every day.

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    #96     Mar 7, 2004
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    #97     Mar 7, 2004
  7. Cutten

    Cutten

    Kerry should run an identical ad with "which man let this happen?" as the tagline.
     
    #98     Mar 7, 2004
  8. Probably the most appropriate and accurate comparison I've seen yet!
     
    #99     Mar 7, 2004
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Mackie, listen to me very carefully. I know your a little bit slow, so I'll try to speak slowly so you understand.

    It..........is..........not......right.......for........either...........party................to........run...........on...........hate. They..........are............BOTH.........wrong..........in.............doing..............this! Stop...........defending...........your...........party............for....................using...........hate............just.............because............the............other.........party............does.

    Did I speak slowly enough for you to understand? I hope so.
     
    #100     Mar 7, 2004