Bush/Cheney Impeachment – The process is underway.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SouthAmerica, Jun 29, 2006.

  1. Very true, we are all affected. This is why I care. If this "line" were eliminated, Bush would not be president. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing, lol, it's hypothetical.

    Best of luck in 2008, I hope it's a great turning point for America and its greatness can be re-established in the eyes of the world.
     
    #21     Jun 29, 2006
  2. At least the area has some people who can think in the area, Nobel Laureates.

    I wonder if one has to do their thesis paper on the "Homosexuality of Tinky Winky" to earn honors from the high priest at Liberty U or "How to bring back segregation without really trying" at Bob Jones U.
     
    #22     Jun 29, 2006
  3. fhl

    fhl

    When they hand out laureates for the purpose of tweaking a conservative pres, as the commitee admitted in the case of jimmy carter, I'm only surprised that bezerkley has so few. C'mon, step up your game.
    And for the person who said bush was elected to make money for his oil friends, and pointed to the price of oil, would he kindly tell me what the price of oil did during the carter presidency.
     
    #23     Jun 29, 2006
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  5. fhl

    fhl

    #25     Jun 29, 2006
  6. rofl

    Are we going to get an amendment to the consititution banning tinky winky from TV? The flag burning and gay marriage were vital enough, but tinky winky surely has to top all republican agendas.
     
    #26     Jun 29, 2006

  7. What I find most sad and laughable, and I am disguisted with both parties, is that Clinton gets impeached for lying about porking some chick and Bush won't be impeached for distorting Intel and get us into Iraq. I don't care if Clinton likes fat chicks and cheats on his wife, that's fine. I do care that our country is going bankrupt and we have killed over 2k troops. WTF ppl were are out priorities?
     
    #27     Jun 29, 2006
  8. Pabst

    Pabst


    C'mon Dan, you're a size trader. Use your freakin head. Did Bush lie to Congress or did he make the same errant assumption about WMD's that Blair, Putin and Clinton made? Hillary and Lieberman voted for the war and both still support it. Don't you think they had access to WJC's intelligence? Of course they did.

    And while I felt impeachment was an over the top measure in WJC's case, how would you like it if you brought a valid lawsuit against me and I lied during the deposition? Clinton was a likeable guy but deep down he's a scumbag.
     
    #28     Jun 29, 2006
  9. 4 were illegals that voted for Gore.
     
    #29     Jun 29, 2006
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    June 29, 2006


    SouthAmerica: Instead of talking about the potential economic impact that a Bush/Cheney impeachment will have on the US economy – you guys decided to attack me as usual and the University of Berkeley.

    By the way, the University of Berkeley has some very good economists on its staff and they have a better understanding of what is going on in the global economy than the mainstream media gives them credit for.

    Here is an example of a report coming out of the University of Berkeley - that it is right on target.



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    November 2003

    “UC Berkeley study assesses 'second wave' of outsourcing U.S. jobs”

    A ferocious new wave of outsourcing of white-collar jobs is sweeping the United States, according to a new study published by University of California, Berkeley, researchers, who say the trend could leave as many as 14 million service jobs in the U.S. vulnerable.Study authors Ashok Deo Bardhan and Cynthia Kroll, both researchers at the Fisher Center for Real Estate and Urban Economics housed at UC Berkeley's Haas School of Business, advise that not all of an estimated 14 million vulnerable jobs are likely to be lost. But, they note, jobs remaining in the United States could be subject to pressures to lower wages, and the jobs that leave may slow the nation's job growth or generate losses in related activities.

    By Kathleen Maclay



    BERKELEY – A ferocious new wave of outsourcing of white-collar jobs is sweeping the United States, according to a new study published by University of California, Berkeley, researchers, who say the trend could leave as many as 14 million service jobs in the United States vulnerable.

    Study authors Ashok Deo Bardhan and Cynthia Kroll, both researchers at the Fisher Center for Real Estate and Urban Economics housed at UC Berkeley's Haas School of Business, say that not all of the at-risk jobs are likely to be lost. But, they note, jobs remaining in the United States could be subject to pressures to lower wages, and the jobs that leave may slow the nation's job growth or generate losses in related activities.

    Jobs most vulnerable to the new wave of outsourcing, the researchers say, include medical transcriptions services, stock market research for financial firms, customer service call centers, legal online database research, payroll and other "back office" activities.

    Altogether, the positions feature vulnerability-producing attributes such as a lack of face-to-face customer service, work processes that enable telecommuting and Internet work, high wage differentials between countries, a high information content, low social networking requirements, and low set-up costs.

    Bardhan and Kroll say that the widely quoted Forrester Research (an independent technology research company) report issued in 2002 that 3.3 million jobs would be lost to outsourcing by 2015 already seems conservative. They point to the rate of outsourcing over the past few years to India - 25,000 to 30,000 jobs in June 2003 alone.

    India, they say, is the leading destination for outsourcing due to its population's widespread use of English in both education and business, institutional similarities with the United States in its legal system, wide wage differentials with the United States, and its large numbers of science and engineering graduates.

    Yet, other locations such as China, East Asia, Russia, Israel, and Ireland also are increasingly popular and competitive outsourcing destinations, the authors say. They cite tentative evidence that shows the outsourcing of business process and software jobs generated more than a million jobs in the '90s and hundreds of thousands more since the turn of the century.

    "Because white-collar work is so widely spread throughout the United States, many different parts of the country may feel the effects of this wave of outsourcing," says Kroll.

    Areas that benefited over the past two decades from the migration of "back office" work out of central cities could now see a share of those jobs leave for other parts of the world, warn Kroll and Bardhan.

    Major metropolitan areas are not immune either, they say. San Francisco and San Jose as well as expensive East Coast locations such as Boston and New York City are vulnerable, according to the researchers, both because of their high shares of occupations that can be outsourced and because of their high cost of labor.

    In terms of real estate markets, "outsourcing will not empty out office buildings in the United States," says Kroll, "but it will certainly slow the rate at which current vacancies are absorbed." Both "back office" markets and high-tech centers are likely to feel the effects, she says.

    But all is not necessarily gloomy for the United States' economy, the researchers say.

    For example, outsourcing of service jobs may prove more costly to the economy than the earlier wave of manufacturing outsourcing, conclude Kroll and Bardhan. This, they say, would be the case if the economy does not generate enough technological growth to replace the jobs lost with new ones and workers eventually find new work in lower-wage occupations.

    "On the other hand," says Bardhan, "continuing innovation and technological advances could allow the U.S. and California economies to keep the 'cream' of new development and higher-value-added jobs at home, while more routine activities are outsourced."

    This was the pattern for high-tech manufacturing outsourcing of California's low-wage assembly jobs during a downturn that brought productivity increases in its wake and a wide range of opportunities in new service jobs, he said.

    Additional information:


    · Research report: The New Wave of Outsourcing (PDF)

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    #30     Jun 29, 2006