Burning Quran vs Ground zero mosque

Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, Sep 9, 2010.

  1. So many people have come out and said that the pastor has a right to burn the quran but its disrespectful. Most recently Obama himself has said this...but why didnt he say the same thing for the ground zero mosque? All these people that are against the quran burning are not so outspoken about the GZ mosque. Personally I think the pastor AND the GZ mosque builders are just trying to piss off as many people as they can which really accomplishes nothing.

    Why are americans getting so intolerant of Christian shenanigans, but not muslim who every year kill alot more americans than Christians. You would think if people were going to get upset, they would be more upset with the muslim shenanigans.

    I'm starting to think America has a bully attitude. This meaning that because muslims retaliate with violence, the coward bully backs down and watches what he says in front of the muslim. But the Christian doesnt fight back with violence, so the bully turns it up a notch and really lets him have it.
  2. Ricter


    What about the mosque "at" ground zero which predates the WTC by decades?
  3. When freedom of speech and freedom of religion collide this is what you get. In these particular cases, both are constitutionally protected forms of bad judgement.

  4. but not muslim who every year kill alot more americans than Christians.
    Got a reference for that :D
  5. Ricter


    Where's the data? We haven't killed a lot more muslims since (and including) 9/11 than they have killed Americans?
  6. g222


    Hell - I don't know why we even bother any more because muslims seem to be killing more muslims than anyone could ever aspire to. So let's bring our kids home and let the muslims manage their own extinction.

    And tom, you hit it square on the nose !!!
  7. Good point...lets attribute it to reverse sharia law so we are even then. (kidding)

    The fact is, the media is just as guilty as the preacher. I'm sure nobody would even know about this and all our troops would be safe from taliban retribution if the media didnt have to cover this story 24/7. Anyone remember when this guy in the video burned the quran almost 4 years ago? No you dont remember because it never made any news story. Our troops didnt all of a sudden get any more in danger because the media never covered it. Makes you think that the people that control the media are trying to keep the war going.

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  8. If they burnt a bible, no one would care, notice, or miss a beat.

    Tells ya something about the world , now don't it.

    Honey, get the marshmellows
  9. Did Media Negligently Create Koran Burning Controversy?
    By Noel Sheppard
    Thu, 09/09/2010 - 16:55 ET

    As the ninth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, and Americans fret about a Pastor they never heard of burning Korans to commemorate the event, people on both sides of the political aisle should be asking a serious question: did the media negligently create this controversy?

    After all, Terry Jones has a tiny, 50 member, non-denominational church in Gainesville, Florida.

    Should some unknown Pastor - with a following smaller than what's normally in line at an In-n-Out restaurant drive-thru! - wanting to burn Korans generate such a media firestorm that an international incident and our national security are threatened?

    As Mike Thomas of the Orlando Sentinel wrote Wednesday, if you knew the real attention-getting background of Jones, the answer would be a definitive "No":
    With none of this getting Jones the attention he craved, he decided to put a truck in a field with a sign on it saying, "International Burn a Koran Day":
    Indeed they did as evidenced by NewsBusters reports here and here. And, as Thomas pointed out, Jones is just eating it up:
    Indeed. And who are really to blame?


    America like any country has its share of crazy people with crazy ideas. If such folks were ignored rather than given such a huge platform to spread their word from, we would all be the better for it.

    Unfortunately, just as media were exactly what Jones needed, he fit their bill perfectly.

    For weeks now, the press as a result of America's opposition to the Ground Zero mosque have been trying to convince the citizenry that we are an Islamophobic nation that hates Muslims. Despite the lack of any supporting evidence, this has been the media narrative for approaching a month.

    With this in mind, an attention-seeking, unknown Pastor advertising a Koran bonfire was exactly what the press needed to prove once and for all just how much antipathy there is for Muslims here.

    Sadly, they gave this guy his fifteen minutes of fame without any regard for the harm that could be done to Americans living abroad, in particular those fighting wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. More hypocritically, so-called journalists are now blaming Jones for endangering the lives of others.

    Wouldn't this not be the case if they ignored him? Isn't it all the press attention he's gotten that has actually caused this controversy? If media really are worried that his actions might result in an international incident, given how few people there are in his own area that care what he's got to say, couldn't they just similarly pay him no mind?

    Consider that Gainesville and surrounds has 258,000 residents. This means that two-hundredths of one percent of the population of this city are members of his church. Right now there are probably more media vans in Gainesville than people who care what this guy says.

    Can't press members claiming they're concerned with what his Koran burning will do just pack up those vans, go home, and do us all a favor? If nobody was there to cover the event Saturday, maybe Jones would change his mind and start thinking up his next attention-getting event.

    On the flipside, this controversy has done us all a favor in exposing the media's hypocrisy concerning so-called "Islamophobia."

    Consider that the press are largely in favor of the Ground Zero mosque despite being in the minority concerning this matter. They base their view on the Islamic center backers having the Constitutional right to build at that location regardless of how anyone feels about it. Yet, these same people are now in an uproar over Jones without a care for his Constitutional right to burn Korans.

    As such, the media have shown themselves far more concerned for the feelings and the rights of Muslims than Judeo-Christians, and far more worried about offending foreigners than the 67 percent of Americans who are opposed to the Ground Zero mosque.

    I guess we have Jones to thank for making this hypocrisy apparent to us.
  10. Ricter


    You're wrong about that. Everyone, left, right, media, etc., knows the rev has a right to burn the books. I admit, as you hate the media, why would you spend much time with it?
    #10     Sep 9, 2010