Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ZZZzzzzzzz, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. Actually nothing in his comments (as quoted) suggests that he believes total government tax receipts should increase. I'm sure he does, as do I, but that's not what he actually said.

    Leave you the hell alone to drive to work on roads funded by tax dollars, benefit from medical research funded by tax dollars, send your kids to schools funded by tax dollars, collect a salary funded at least in part by federal spending, etc.

    Everybody wants the benefits of government without paying the price. We're happy to take everything we get for granted, but of course every penny we pay in taxes is like blood from a stone.

    In the pit of hypocrisy that is the conservative movement, the starve-the-beast tax rebels are the absolute nadir.

    Unless, of course, you're living off the land in a cabin in the woods, in which case more power to you.

    Martin
     
    #101     Jul 5, 2007
  2. Cesko

    Cesko

    Leave you the hell alone to drive to work on roads funded by tax dollars, benefit from medical research funded by tax dollars, send your kids to schools funded by tax dollars, collect a salary funded at least in part by federal spending, etc.

    Everybody wants the benefits of government without paying the price. We're happy to take everything we get for granted, but of course every penny we pay in taxes is like blood from a stone.

    In the pit of hypocrisy that is the conservative movement, the starve-the-beast tax rebels are the absolute nadir.

    Unless, of course, you're living off the land in a cabin in the woods, in which case more power to you.


    Stupid argument.
    In Eastern Europe government was everything. Were we better off because we had everything "provided" for???
    By your non-sense logic it should have been a paradise. I guarantee you it wasn't. I'd rather be abused by corporation than by the state.

    Just following the logic of your argument, nothing more.
     
    #102     Jul 5, 2007
  3. No, you're not following the logic of my argument. I did not suggest larger government or more services. I just think we should pay for the services we already have, and stop pretending that our government does nothing of value for us.

    In any case, Eastern Europe is a terrible analogy. Here are some differences from the United States:

    1) They were vassal states to an imperial power
    2) They were utterly undemocratic
    3) They lacked individual freedoms
    4) They had command economies

    Can you come up with a better analogy? Let's see, are there any first world, free market, democratic countries with much larger public sector spending than the US? How about Sweden? Denmark? Holland?

    Honestly, I'm not a big fan of Scandinavian style government myself, but they're a far cry from Soviet Eastern Europe.

    Martin
     
    #103     Jul 5, 2007
  4. hey, you forgot to list the differences. :p
     
    #104     Jul 6, 2007
  5. neophyte321

    neophyte321 Guest

    george will deserves the final word on this issue ....


     
    #105     Jul 7, 2007
  6. Attacking buffet? didnt i say he had skills and abilities that would have driven lesser folk to their grave before time?
    Actually, there was nothing in the article to suggest he wasnt in favor of LOWERING his secretaries taxes.
    Legacy-hes made heaps of people very rich via birkshire hathoway, that a good legacy for a start.

    A glorified business manager-that doesnt imply incompetence i would have thought, results speak for themselves.

    Im saying, he has vast amounts of power, the "issue" i referred to is how people examine, or think about the actions or motivations of such powerfull people, not necessarily their actual agenda or motivation.

    Actually, i always got the impression he was a horrible killjoy scrooge-mc-duck workaholic type, maybe im way off i dont know-but having re-read his comments on rebublicans, i like him a lot more now
    :D
     
    #106     Jul 7, 2007
  7. Cesko. How long will it take, you dumbfuck to realize what a patsy you are? If it takes you more than 10 years, you are one real dumbfuck, you know? This country brings in idiots like you from all over the world, to use you, work you and suck off your dumb idealism of the "American dream", which is in reality a big nightmare. If it takes you longer than 7-10 years, it just shows how stupid you really are. You still think you can get rich trading and "defending" the low taxes and the american way, right?
    Bwwaaaaaahhaaaaa !! I love it!
    Let you in on a "secret" ok? Dems and Gop is the same fucking party. How do you like that for democracy, stupid? The force that is running the nation is the multinationals, you know the fortune 500. They are making national security decisions for us, like open border policy to keep the slave labor freeflow coming and to keep fucking over practically every facet of the working middle class forever. They have fixed the political scene that it is practically impossible to run as a third party candidate who has not sold out to these traitorous multis. Compared to this picture the EU is in pretty good shape, still.
     
    #107     Jul 15, 2007
  8. Cesko

    Cesko

    esko. How long will it take, you dumbfuck to realize what a patsy you are? If it takes you more than 10 years, you are one real dumbfuck, you know? This country brings in idiots like you from all over the world, to use you, work you and suck off your dumb idealism of the "American dream", which is in reality a big nightmare. If it takes you longer than 7-10 years, it just shows how stupid you really are. You still think you can get rich trading and "defending" the low taxes and the american way, right?
    Bwwaaaaaahhaaaaa !! I love it!
    Let you in on a "secret" ok? Dems and Gop is the same fucking party. How do you like that for democracy, stupid? The force that is running the nation is the multinationals, you know the fortune 500. They are making national security decisions for us, like open border policy to keep the slave labor freeflow coming and to keep fucking over practically every facet of the working middle class forever. They have fixed the political scene that it is practically impossible to run as a third party candidate who has not sold out to these traitorous multis. Compared to this picture the EU is in pretty good shape, still.


    You stupid fuck you attack me for no reason, you low life piece of shit?? When I read you provided "trading services" I kept my mouth shut for one and one reason only, because you have the same history like me you garbage!!
    This is for everybody to read, this stupid character proclaims trading is for suckers and, importantly, has been saying this shit for years.Here is one example:
    IN poker when you lose, you cannot even write it off. Not to mention the uncertainty if you were colluded, cheated by a crooked dealer or just colluding players.
    Both pursuits are for suckers in my humble opinion
    He is talking about poker+trading!!
    Now think of it, this guy, at the same time, ventured into "trading advisory" services, here
    if someone is bitten by the "trading bug" and wanted help, I provided that help, at one time. I never claimed outrageous results or promised the sky. I can sleep at night. Note, that I had a change of heart and I have stopped that business, I stand by what I say. Most ET folk are dreamy eyed suckers who either cannot find a job or work just plain stinks for them.

    Logically if somebody sells anything,yet he thinks it's for suckers, what does it make him??
    YOU ARE A CON YOU LOW LIFE. How about that "corporate fuckism" stupid?
    You had a change of heart my ass. It's not easy to scheme suckers out of their money, is it pretentious idiot?
    You call me stupid for being in this country JUST LIKE YOU you posing retard? Talk to me when you are back to Hungary(turning left little by little you will like it) and then when you say anything I might actually believe it cretin!
    Again, you(while calling me stupid) say trading is for suckers. Why?? How do you know it asshole? Because YOU CAN'T MAKE IT??? What a retarded logic! I'll tell you what, trading is for stupid.If you had a tiny little brain at least, you would understand that and actually had a chance fucker!

    Let you in on a "secret" ok? Dems and Gop is the same fucking party. How do you like that for democracy, stupid?
    Thanks for the news, you don't even know what's my political standing simpleton.

    What about all the people who paid money to you for coaching on how to be a better trader? Are they suckers? What about all the people that bought your implementation of the PGO trading system? Are they suckers? What about your website coach4traders dot com? Is it for suckers? (Poster Kwiatkowski)
    Is he one of your "satisfied" clients?? Tell me when they inquired about "PGO trading system" did you tell them it's for suckers???
    You know what you lefty scum? People call me stupid on this site, I call them stupid, I call myself stupid probably more often but you have no right to call me dumb because you are just fucking low.
    Put me on "ignore" dumbass. I beg you.
     
    #108     Jul 15, 2007
  9. Cesko

    Cesko

    Check Andrasnm's profile. "professional card player". So you are one of the suckers? GARBAGE

    You are so stupid you say poker playing is for suckers yet you keep profile like that? No wonder you had a hard time to con other people.
     
    #109     Jul 15, 2007
  10. Cesko

    Cesko

    Hey Andrasnm you are an author??(your profile). Give me the title I read a lot so I am gonna check it.
     
    #110     Jul 15, 2007