Buffet

Discussion in 'Politics' started by NUTSNEAL, Mar 8, 2004.

  1. WarEagle

    WarEagle Moderator

    Parkinson's? Wow, for a French guy you sure are insensitive...

    That is a conspiracy theory site...if you believe everything you read there, then it is you that have the problem. I know the French hate us for whatever reason, but you are letting that hatred cloud your judgement. Anyway, this is off-topic, so lets keep it about Buffett and his investment prowess, not rumors and Bush bashing. There are plenty of threads in Chit-Chat for you to get your kicks.
     
    #71     Mar 14, 2004
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    Interesting;
    & with all due respect to that local tax collector that sounds like too liberal an appraisal.

    Might appeal that one .:cool:
     
    #72     Mar 15, 2004
  3. Where's my goddamn palace....!!!



    (lol). I just do not think it exists.
     
    #73     Mar 15, 2004
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    Any have any details on that Bloomberg/TV news about Buffet buying silver this early am?Bloomberg tends to be accurate.

    Like Buffets rural state & used cars help parts dealers, service centers.


    No offence Praetorian2 but many people plus rural residents may consider $ 4 million home '' pretty high on the hog:cool: ''Prae got your silver question in here.



    William O Neill has had some good points on gold [silver included] stocks in IBD plus IBD is wisely amoung tax cutting kings;
    market still looks good longer term charts-$xau{Philly Gold & silver index}
     
    #74     Mar 15, 2004
  5. That's an expensive place, no doubt. Just saying that it isn't a 50m kozlowski mansion.

    I still got all my silver. I even added a bit on the most recent dip.

    No idea on Buffett buying. I heard that he sold all his for a loss last year. Not sure why he'd rebuy so soon. That market is way too thin for someone like him to daytrade.
     
    #75     Mar 15, 2004
  6. Diode

    Diode

    And note that when he recently received a multi-million dollar settlement from the CME, he turned all the money over to his original investors. (See here for details.)
     
    #76     Mar 15, 2004

  7. me first, p2 ! LOL ! i am still trying to locate the article about buffets palatial estates--- if i can't , i'll concede.

    surfer :)
     
    #77     Mar 15, 2004
  8. Surf- Time for a concession speech?


    Just so you know, I'm just yanking your chain. You're the man. (Even if Buffett is a normal guy).
     
    #78     Mar 24, 2004

  9. LOL ! not quite yet, i am still looking for the info.


    how was NYC ?


    surfer :)
     
    #79     Mar 24, 2004
  10. Vishnu

    Vishnu

    The first post on this thread states that this thread belongs in Econ and not Trading. I respectfully disagree. Buffett is certainly not an economist and he certainly is a trader.

    a. Despite popular opinion, Buffett does not buy and hold. Historical examples include Disney and McDonalds, both companies he bought and sold several times. More recently, his holdings in LVLT and AMZN were more trades rather than buy and hold decisions. The idea that his "holding period is forever" is just bullshit intended to keep people from frontrunning the $50B that he has to slosh around.

    b. The notion that Berkshire is a big value equity mutual fund is also incorrect. Until last year, for the three years prior, Buffett had at least 50% of his holdings or more in bonds.

    c. Silver. From what I hear, he did sell his silver holdings. Not sure if he sold at a loss though.

    d. Derivatives. Buffett says he hates the use of derivatives. More recently, the FASB (who agrees with Buffett) requires the disclosure of complex derivs on the balance sheet. Who did this screw the most? Why, Berkshire Hathaway, because of their little-known investment in hedge fund West End Capital, now has to disclose over $20B in derivatives (off of a $500M investment) on their balance sheet.

    e. Note that West End Capital is run by John Byrne's son (Byrne has run insurance companies for Buffett in the past). Buffett's attempt to make this an off balance sheet transaction to a related party (think Enron) did not work out too well.

    f. Back to the trading question: Buffett is also well-known for arbitrage short-term trading strategies. In fact, probably half the profits of his hedge fund (1957 - 1969) came from arbitrage.

    All of this said, there is no arguing that Buffett has built a good company and has a great and enviable track record. I am actually more disgusted with his supposed emulators and the media adulation than the man himself. I've been to the Berkshire Hathaway annual meetings, I've listened to the critics, and I'm currently contracted to write a book on "Buffett and trading" and I think there's a lot to be learned from studying the approaches he's used particularly in the past few years in distressed trading, convert arb, silver, currencies, etc.
     
    #80     Mar 24, 2004