Buffet sells way out of the money puts

Discussion in 'Options' started by zdreg, Mar 6, 2020.

  1. This dude is SPED.

    The difference between a put and a call is shares.

    To convert a put to a call you use spot. Each natural position has a synthetic equivalent. A put is a call when spot is used.

    Long call = long spot; long put. The long spot+put is the synthetic long call.
    Short put = long spot; short call. The covered call is a synthetic short put.

    Long XYZ at 100; short 70C at $30.5. Put is valued at $0.5 (absent rates/divs).

    Trading the XYZ CC is equivalent to shorting the put at fifty cents.

    They are equivalent in all ways other than the forward while holding the position (rho).
     
    #21     Mar 6, 2020
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  2. https://www.theoptionsguide.com/in-the-money-covered-calls.aspx
     
    #22     Mar 6, 2020
  3. #23     Mar 6, 2020
  4. Numbnut, MSFT is trading 161.6. Here are the mids on the DITM 110 strike.

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    Buying the shares and selling the call for 52 is equivalent to selling the put at forty cents. It is. The same. Fucking. Thing.
     
    #24     Mar 6, 2020
  5. Selling FOTM puts, selling DITM calls, either way you can make money or get stuck in a bear surge.
     
    #25     Mar 6, 2020

  6. Yeah, forty fucking cents.
     
    #26     Mar 6, 2020
  7. .sigma

    .sigma

    Hes cash rich regardless of any movement of the VIX lol
     
    #27     Mar 7, 2020
  8. I suppose I could try a FOTM naked put like John Greathouse. If I get stuck with stock I can put it on the wheel.

    But I did make money on DITM covered calls.
     
    #28     Mar 7, 2020
  9. Real Money

    Real Money

    I've also heard him say that he is reluctant to buy airlines, even when attractive. I remember him saying something like

    "usually when I start looking at airlines......well, I probably shouldn't be looking at airlines."
     
    #29     Mar 7, 2020
  10. Yeah, airlines are some of the choppiest there is. They'd better pay off good.
     
    #30     Mar 7, 2020