Buchanon on Dean/Bush

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Pabst, Jan 11, 2004.

  1. Pabst

    Pabst

    Dean: A prophet ahead of his time?


    By Patrick Buchanon
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    Posted: January 7, 2004
    1:00 a.m. Eastern


    © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com


    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Within four weeks, the Democratic nominee will probably be known, and this city believes it will almost surely be Howard Dean.

    The Iowa caucuses on Jan. 19, the New Hampshire primary on Jan. 27, and the South Carolina primary on Feb. 3, same day as half a dozen other caucuses and primaries, will tell the tale.

    The shrillness and savagery of the attacks on Dean by rival Democrats like Joe Lieberman underscore the point. They all understand that if Dean does not stumble, they all fall by Feb. 3.

    Dean is today viewed as a perfect pigeon for George W. Bush. And it is hard to fault the assessment. He is angry, prone to gaffes, perceived as ultra-liberal and from a state where he never learned the rhetoric that can move Democratic minorities the way Clinton did.

    Moreover, he is as divisive a figure in his party, with his denunciations of its "Republican wing" and "cockroaches" in Washington, as was Barry Goldwater in the GOP in 1964. And George W. Bush looks almost as certain of re-election as LBJ. Though, at times, LBJ, heir to the martyred JFK, ran 40 points ahead. Bush has never had such a lead.

    Yet, the comparison is valid. For just as Goldwater split from his party's establishment to vote no on the great issue of 1964, the Civil Rights Act, Dean broke with his party to say "no" to Bush's war.

    The greater question, however, is: Does Dean's movement portend the future?

    Consider: Though Goldwater lost 44 states, the movement that nominated him captured the GOP at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, shifted the party's center of gravity south and west, helped elect Nixon twice, and put Ronald Reagan in the White House before passing into history.

    McGovern's campaign also outlasted its champion. After the rout by Nixon in 1972, McGovernism, the political vehicle of the counter-culture and social revolution of the '60s, set down deep roots in the Democratic Party that have never been pulled up.

    Like Goldwater, McGovern proved a candidate ahead of his time.

    Conservative Democrats who stood against him in 1968 and 1972 – Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago, John Connolly of Texas, Frank Rizzo of Philadelphia, George Wallace of Alabama – have no heirs in today's party. Even "New Democrats," though they decry the nomination of Dean as "another McGovern," are all pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-feminist, pro-affirmative action. Where do they dissent from the agenda McGovern offered?

    Indeed, McGovernism has even made inroads into the Republican Party. Though employing conservative rhetoric to win, the GOP has been sliding leftward on social, cultural and even economic issues.

    Like his father, Bush is running up huge deficits and increasing the domain of federal bureaucrats. He, too, is a champion of foreign aid and intervention to build a New World Order. He, too, is a global democratist who cites Wilson and FDR. He, too, is a "big government conservative" like his dad. Since taking his oath, he has not killed one federal program, agency or department, or vetoed a single bill.

    LBJ won a landslide running on the "guns-and-butter" budget that financed the Great Society and the war in Vietnam. The Bush Republicans have gone LBJ one better. They are for guns and butter – and tax cuts, too.

    On the cause of a constitutional amendment to ban abortion, Bush says America is not ready. Anyone ever heard the president preach from the Bully Pulpit to change our hearts?

    After the Supreme Court affirmed the right of the University of Michigan to discriminate against white kids for 25 years – as long as it is not so blatant as adding 20 points to application scores for race – Bush hailed the court's recognition of the value of "diversity."

    When the battle flag became an issue in South Carolina, Bush quietly removed a plaque to Southern war dead put up by the Daughters of the Confederacy in a Texas courthouse, and his brother Jeb took down the battle flag over the Florida statehouse.

    Democrats are pro-gay rights. What do Bushites say? "We are inclusive." "We are for tolerance." "We are for diversity." "We are against discrimination." But, checking Gallup, "We believe marriage should be between a man and a woman." Heroic.

    Republicans have been winning elections, even for Congress. But they have done so by shucking conservative principles. Like the Americans in Vietnam, they are winning all the set-piece battles, as they are losing the war.

    Dean may be routed. But my guess is that whatever he stands for today will be embraced by his party tomorrow, and the GOP the day after. Civil unions, here we come.
     
  2. I can't believe this: Our civil liberties get stripped away worse every month now, government expansion is out of control, record deficits, Half the prisoners in our system are political prisoners who shouldn't be there, soldiers dying over falsified threats....and what are these Bible thumpers all worried about?

    Gay civil unions.

    Jesus Christ, I couldn't care if a thousand hot sweaty gay men oiled themselves up and held a massive butt-fucking orgy in the oval office while wearing bridal gowns- I wish people could focus on stuff that actually matters for a change.
     
  3. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Rearden, are you shouting at the rain again?
     
  4. Pabst

    Pabst

    Want be to give you an Ayn Rand type reason. Traditionally, death benefits, i.e. pensions, SS ect have been paid out to widows under the old fashioned presumption that there may be children in financial risk or the widow had been a stay at home mom without money or marketable skills. The era of two-professional, childless hetro couples, well they BEAT the system. But now to say that able bodied MEN need to deplete government and corporate resources by being granted the same status is absurd.

    BTW Reardon did you see these stats in the Sun-Times Friday. Wild shit. Check this out:

    Adding to the concern about sending tax dollars to fund such a center is the release of a University of Chicago sex study findings concerning four Chicago neighborhoods, including Lake View.


    The study, featured in Friday's Chicago Sun Times, reports that in the locality of the new community center, 43 percent of the gay and bisexual men said "they had had more than 60 sex partners during their adulthood; 18 percent had between 31 and 60 partners; and 27 percent had between 16 and 30 partners."


    The study says that 55 percent of Lake View neighborhood's gay and bisexual men have contracted sexually transmitted infections, compared with 15 percent of straight men that live in the same community.
    LOL. I added that up as 88% of the gay men polled had at least 16 partners in their lives. Man if woman had those stats I'd NEVER get married!
     
  5. Women DO have those same statistics.
    They just don't tell you about it.

    True!

    :D
     
  6. As you phrased, the presumption is old fashioned and this is a new era, as all eras are.

    Supposing the gay couple has children, and one works, the other is a stay at home mom/dad. Does that qualify for benefits?

    Weren't pension dollars and SS contributions either taken directly out of the individual's earnings or were earned under an employment contract? Why do you have to have kids together to receive the benefits or be a hetero union?
     
  7. That's a mighty big supposition.
     
  8. msfe

    msfe

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    Stephanie Diani for The New York Times

    Tom Howard, background, left his job as a professor to raise three children with his partner, Ken Yood, a lawyer in Los Angeles.


    Two Fathers, With One Happy to Stay at Home

    By GINIA BELLAFANTE

    Published: January 12, 2004

    www.nytimes.com
     
  9. And?