Brown Wins

Discussion in 'Politics' started by drjekyllus, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. Correct. It is merely following standard troll protocol of baiting and flaming.
     
    #81     Jan 21, 2010
  2. Yannis

    Yannis

    That Old Obama Magic Is Back
    by Ann Coulter


    "Once again, the people have spoken, and this time they quoted what Dick Cheney said to Pat Leahy.

    Less than two weeks ago, The New York Times said that so much as a "tighter-than-expected" victory for Massachusetts Democratic Senate candidate Martha Coakley would incite "soul-searching among Democrats nationally," which sent Times readers scurrying to their dictionaries to look up this strange new word, "soul."

    A close win for Coakley, the Times said, would constitute "the first real barometer of whether problems facing the party" will affect the 2010 elections.

    But when Coakley actually lost the election by an astounding 5 points, the Chicago boys in the White House decided it was the chick's fault.

    Democratic candidate Martha Coakley may be a moral monster, but it's ridiculous to blame her for losing the election. She lost because of the Democrats' obsession with forcing national health care down the nation's throat.

    Coakley campaigned exactly the way she should have.

    As a Democrat running in a special election for a seat that had been held by a Democratic icon (and another moral monster) for the past 46 years in a state with only 12 percent registered Republicans, Coakley's objective was to have voters reading the paper on Friday, saying: "Hey, honey, did you know there was a special election four days ago? Yeah, apparently Coakley won, though it was a pretty low turnout."

    Ideally, no one except members of government unions and Coakley's immediate family would have even been aware of the election.

    And until Matt Drudge began covering it like a presidential election a week ago, it might have turned out that way.

    Coakley had already won two statewide elections, while her Republican opponent, Scott Brown, had only won elections in his district. She had endorsements from the Kennedy family and the current appointed Democratic senator, Paul Kirk -- as well as endless glowing profiles in The Boston Globe.

    And by the way, as of Jan. 1, Brown had spent $642,000 on the race, while Coakley had spent $2 million.

    On Jan. 8, just 11 days before the election, The New York Times reported: "A Brown win remains improbable, given that Democrats outnumber Republicans by 3 to 1 in the state and that Ms. Coakley, the state's attorney general, has far more name recognition, money and organizational support."

    It was in that article that the Times said a narrow Coakley win would be an augury for the entire Democratic Party. But now she's being hung out to dry so that Democrats don't have to face the possibility that Obama's left-wing policies are to blame.

    Alternatively, Democrats are trying to write off Brown's colossal victory as the standard seesawing of public sentiment that hits both Republicans and Democrats from time to time. As MSNBC's Chris Matthews explained, it was just the voters saying "no" generally, but not to anything in particular.

    Except when Republicans win political power, they hold onto it long enough to govern. The Democrats keep being smacked down by the voters immediately after being elected and revealing their heinous agenda.

    As a result, for the past four decades, American politics has consisted of Republicans controlling Washington for eight to 14 years -- either from the White House or Capitol Hill -- thus allowing Americans to forget what it was they didn't like about Democrats, whom they then carelessly vote back in. The Democrats immediately remind Americans what they didn't like about Democrats, and their power is revoked at the voters' first possible opportunity.

    Obama has cut the remembering-what-we-don't-like-about-Democrats stage of this process down from two to four years to about 10 months. Folks, I'm convinced that if we all work really hard, we can get it down to three months.

    Four years of Jimmy Carter gave us two titanic Reagan landslides, peace and prosperity for eight blessed years -- and even a third term for his feckless vice president, George H.W. Bush.

    Two years of Bill Clinton gave us a historic Republican sweep of Congress, which killed the entire Clinton agenda (with the exception of partial-birth abortion and felony obstruction of justice) -- and also gave us two terms for George W. Bush.

    And now, merely one year of Obama and a Democratic Congress has given us the first Republican senator from Massachusetts in 31 years.

    In other recent news, last November, New Jersey voters, who haven't voted for a Republican for president since 1988, threw out their incumbent Democratic governor, Jon Corzine. In Virginia, which Obama carried by 6 points a year earlier, a religious-right Republican won the governor's office by 17 points.

    Sen. Ben Nelson, Democrat of Nebraska, won his last election in 2006 by 28 points -- the largest margin for a Democratic Senate candidate in that state in a quarter-century.

    Since voting for the Senate health care bill last Christmas, the once-bulletproof Sen. Nelson not only gets booed out of Omaha pizzerias, but he has also seen his job approval rating fall to 42 percent and his disapproval rating soar to 48 percent. (Meanwhile, the junior senator from Nebraska, Mike Johanns, who voted against the bill, has a job approval rating of 63 percent.)

    The Democrats have no natural majority because they have no fundamental principles -- at least none that they are willing to state out loud. They are like a drunken vagrant who emerges from the alley to cause havoc every few years. They are the perpetual toothache of American politics.

    To be sure, the fact that 52 percent of Massachusetts voters are racist, sexist tea-baggers -- i.e., voted for a Republican -- means only that the Democrats just went from having the largest congressional majority in a generation to the second largest. But this was "Teddy Kennedy's seat." And it was in Massachusetts.

    Now, no Democrat is safe.

    But the country just got a lot safer." :cool:
     
    #82     Jan 21, 2010

  3. It is a shame ... people like that. Bitter angry Trolls sharing their misery, set to take others down into the cesspool of their misery and bitterness or derail whatever quality conversation with bait and flame.

    In order to not feed them I just put them on ignore.


    I know the way this forum is set up that they aren't able to bounce out these trolls.

    The one good thing about letting the Trolls play in this forum is that it might just allow them to detox enough of their internal vomit where they won't beat their wives as much or abuse their children as much or abuse their co-workers as much. So it does have some "Troll Therapy value."

    You and I both know that if they are nasty people here and only nasty garbage comes out of them ... that that is who they are to others as well.
     
    #83     Jan 21, 2010
  4. Yannis

    Yannis

    The Lessons of Massachusetts
    by Newt Gingrich


    "Scott Brown gave a great victory speech Tuesday night after a tremendous victory.

    He is an attractive, articulate, courageous, hard working candidate.

    He had the courage to serve for years in a small minority in the Massachusetts legislature.

    He had the courage to serve for 20 years and become a lieutenant colonel in the Massachusetts Army Reserve.

    He had the courage to run for the Senate seat which no Republican has won since Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. in 1946 (in a state where the last Republican Senator, Ed Brooke, was elected in 1972).

    He had the courage to run a positive, issues-oriented campaign (a lesson every Republican candidate should learn from this victory as well as the gubernatorial victories in Virginia and New Jersey).

    Senator-elect Brown had the courage to cheerfully stick with his truck even under scornful ridicule from the President.

    “The land of the free and the home of the brave” (as our national anthem suggests) has to start with bravery or it can’t remain free.

    Scott Brown’s bravery changed history in the most consequential special election of my lifetime.

    The following is a brief outline of nine key lessons from Scott Brown’s win.

    Lesson One: Run Candidates Everywhere

    The first lesson Republicans should take from last night’s victory is the GOP should run candidates everywhere this year and not worry about whether the district used to vote Republican.

    In the last five days a poll has shown Tim Griffin beating incumbent Democrat Vic Snyder by 17 points in Arkansas’s 2nd congressional district.

    In Cincinnati, former Republican Congressman Steve Chabot is now up 17 points over the Democratic incumbent, Steve Driehaus, who beat Chabot in the 2008 election.

    In Michigan, former Republican Congressman Tim Walberg is now 7 points ahead of the Democrat Mark Schauer who beat him in 2008.

    There are moments when history changes and the American people decide to shake things up. This may be such a moment and it means Republicans should fill in the ticket at every level in every state.

    Lesson Two: Being Positive Matters and Congressional Republicans Should Take Note

    In the three winning campaigns (Virginia, New Jersey, Massachusetts) the Republican candidate has been issue-oriented and had a positive message. In each case, Republicans drew a principled, issue-oriented difference between themselves and the Democrats.

    The American people are genuinely frightened about the economy, about terrorism, about the loss of honesty and transparency in their government. The American people want a party which is trying to solve the things they fear, not a party which is trying to use their fear to remain negative.

    An alternative party can win huge victories in 2010 and 2012; an opposition party will have far fewer victories.

    Lesson Three: President Obama Has Had Two Bad Anniversaries and Now is the Moment for Him to Rethink What He Has Been Doing

    The anniversary of the President’s victory in the 2008 election saw decisive Republican gubernatorial victories in two states he had carried.

    Wednesday was the anniversary of his inauguration, and it was the date a new Republican senator was sent to Washington to fill the late Sen. Ted Kennedy’s seat, which Senator-elect Brown made clear is the “people’s seat”

    The President now has an excuse to stop, rethink, recalibrate, and learn some painful lessons.

    No more secret deals.

    No more Pelosi-Reid machine votes.

    No more leftwing, Democrats-only strategies.

    The leftwing leadership in the House and Senate would hate and fight such a change in course.

    Moderate Democrats (and most Americans) would breathe a sigh of relief.

    Lesson Four: Republicans Should Offer To Help Solve America’s Jobs, Security, Deficit, and Health Challenges through an Open, Transparent Legislative Process

    This is the right moment for House and Senate Republicans to offer to meet with the President and start a new health reform process, as well as America’s other challenges.

    This offer to work together to help the nation would be well received by the American people and would represent a real shift from an opposition party attitude to an alternative governing party attitude.

    Lesson Five: The Tea Parties and Populism Are Real

    The Tea Party movement is going to be a major force in 2010 and 2012.

    It represents a real uprising of angry and frightened Americans who are fed up with both parties.

    It’s no accident Scott Brown spent so much of his victory speech emphasizing his independence. This was not a Republican victory. Only 12% of Massachusetts is registered Republican. This was a people’s victory -- a genuine alliance of Republicans, Independents, and moderate Democrats.

    Lesson Six: Trucks Beat Lobbyists

    The strangest thing about President Obama’s ill-advised, last minute visit to Massachusetts on Sunday was his fixation with Scott Brown’s truck.

    FDR, who was a genuine Hudson Valley aristocrat, would have instinctively understood to be on the side of trucks. Bill Clinton might have driven up in a truck.

    However the elitism of the new leftwing Democratic Party -- the party of the Obama-Pelosi-Reid machine -- is so ingrown and so out of touch it did not understand what Scott Brown was doing.

    Lesson Seven: National Security Matters

    Every American concerned about our safety in an age of terrorism ought to look at Brown’s campaign and take heart that safety is a winning issue, and the left is absurdly on the side of putting terrorists’ rights above protecting American lives.

    If you agree, I also encourage you to sign the Human Events petition protesting the civilian trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (sign here).

    Lesson Eight: Secular Radicalism is a Losing Theme Even in Massachusetts

    In one of the strangest moments in Attorney General Coakley’s march to defeat, on the Thursday before the election in a radio interview, she said although “you can have religious freedom … you probably shouldn’t work in an emergency room”

    As the left has grown more secular and more militant in its hostility to religion it has begun to arouse strong opposition. Among Catholics, Evangelicals, Mormons, and Orthodox Jews, Coakley’s position represented an anti-religious bigotry which they fear.

    Defining conscience and religion as legitimate parts of America is an enormous winning position, and Scott Brown’s career had a strong component of defending faith and conscience even in Massachusetts.

    Lesson Nine: The American People are Sovereign and When Their Leaders Infuriate Them They will Rise Up and Fire The Leaders

    As it was with Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, the Progressive movement (especially Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson), Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan -- again and again the American people find a way to overwhelm the establishment.

    In America the people are sovereign. Last night reminded us it is still true. We remain an exceptional country of freedom and opportunity despite the politicians and bureaucrats and academics and elite news media.

    Your friend,

    Newt"
     
    #84     Jan 21, 2010
  5. Lessons from Newt:

    Don't squeal about the sanctity of marriage when you marry three times and then divorce all three and then one her death bed. Atta boy!!

    And er oh ...yeah ..lower taxes and stuff.
     
    #85     Jan 21, 2010
  6. According to Godwin's Law, you just lost any argument in this thread.
     
    #86     Jan 21, 2010
  7. You are a young one too....yes?

     
    #87     Jan 21, 2010
  8. Yannis

    Yannis

    Quoting Maxwell's Elementary Grammar:

    "Oho!' said the pot to the kettle;
    "You are dirty and ugly and black!
    Sure no one would think you were metal,
    Except when you're given a crack."

    "Not so! not so! kettle said to the pot;
    "'Tis your own dirty image you see;
    For I am so clean -without blemish or blot-
    That your blackness is mirrored in me..."


    Was Bill Clinton the paragon of morality? Not to mention a thousand other key Democrats AND Republicans? How about our friend Ted, RIP?

    :) :) :)
     
    #88     Jan 21, 2010
  9. My age is related to Godwin's Law somehow? Not sure I follow you, doc.
     
    #89     Jan 21, 2010
  10. I thought you were smarter than that to site the humor of Godwin's Law (1990) And one that wound do so is not with out humor but age and experience.

     
    #90     Jan 21, 2010