Bring back Tony Stark

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Nov 6, 2024.

  1. Here's how it's a landslide, Trump won by enough votes such that I don't think the Democrats will be able to claim voter fraud for these results. Trump seems to have won enough votes where he's unquestionably the rightful President-Elect under our current political system.
     
    #71     Nov 6, 2024
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivial_objections
    Trivial objections (also referred to as hair-splitting, nothing but objections, barrage of objections and banal objections) is an informal logical fallacy where irrelevant and sometimes frivolous objections are made to divert the attention away from the topic that is being discussed.[1][2] This type of argument is called a "quibble" or "quillet".[citation needed] Trivial objections are a special case of red herring.

    The fallacy often appears when an argument is difficult to oppose. The person making a trivial objection may appear ready to accept the argument in question, but at the same time they will oppose it in many different ways.[1][2]: 165  These objections can appear in the form of lists, hypotheticals, and even accusations.
     
    #72     Nov 6, 2024
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    He's also going to break 300 electoral votes. That's a landslide given all the other things I mentioned regarding the left trying to stop him. Can you imagine how he would have performed if they weren't intent on trying to destroy him?
     
    #73     Nov 6, 2024
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  4. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hyperbole

    Hyperbolic fallacy (also known as "'inductive hyperbole") occurs when something is stated much more strongly than the observations behind it support.

    Hyperbolic fallacy is common in science reporting. Science reporters try to make science interesting to the general public, and all too often do this by exaggerating the importance of certain findings, "hyping" them as "breakthroughs" that "entirely upset" our previous assumptions, etc.

    In fact, it is in the nature of inductive sampling that no conclusion is guaranteed to be true. There is always a degree of uncertainty, and always a possibility that the entire study might prove wanting.

    This constant emphasis on breakthroughs in science may prime some listeners to accepting more wild claims of pseudoscience — because if science can do it, why can't the nice man with a website find a cancer cure?

    The "truthful hyperbole", which is an oxymoron, according to Trump (or his pseudo-autobiographer[note 1]) never hurts (in real estate).[3] People who know Trump seem to think he doesn't understand the difference between the truth and a lie.[4]
     
    #74     Nov 6, 2024
  5. Maybe worse? He kind of thrives with the media attacking him.
     
    #75     Nov 6, 2024
  6. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Inflation has already dropped sharply, but I'm sure he'll claim credit for it anyways. Trump will try to damage international trade yet again. Will he finish the Wall this time ? Will medical insurance premiums drop, and will bankruptcies due to medical care end ? Will legal needed immigration continue ? Will tax rates drop for lower or middle class people, not just rich people ( noting the true tax rate should include annual medical premiums ) ? Will Trump lower the government deficit or at least maintain what Biden did, or start spending wildly again like his first term ?

    I would note that Biden who I have no formed opinion on is handing over to Trump record stock markets, a healthy economy, low unemployment, moderating inflation. Now a lot of that is often NOT due to the Presidency but it is interesting how many times these aspects improve when Democrats are in power and dwindle when the Republicans are in power.
     
    #76     Nov 6, 2024
  7. Trump would cause a lot more inflation if his tariffs were ever enacted. They would do a lot of unnecessary damage to the economy. However, I'm hoping Elon Musk does some significant necessary damage to the economy. The current spending levels are not sustainable barring some miracle AI growth revolution or something.
     
    #77     Nov 6, 2024
  8. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Well you can believe what you want but reality says otherwise. 47% of the country doesn't support Trump and my guess is many strongly don't support Trump. Comeback sure but how useful a comeback is it if you are a convicted felon who tried to claim the last vote was election fraud ? Trump himself may profit from the win especially in pumping up his ego but I see it as a hollow victory for his supporters. It might keep him out of jail.
     
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    #78     Nov 6, 2024
  9. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    My guess is he'll try to plow forward with tariffs and cause trade problems, then try to quietly water down or rescind the changes when he realizes their true impact. Who is going to stop him given the cast of characters the Republicans have these days ? I suppose there is a chance he won't have energy at his advanced age to pursue a lot of his projects, and may just become kind of a lame duck President all bluster no action.
     
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    #79     Nov 6, 2024
  10. He did. The good thing is it's his second term so he doesn't have to worry about the short-term economy to get re-elected. The bad news is that other politicians do. In the past Republicans have historically cried about the debt when Democrats had the White House, but let their guys increase spending when they've had the White House. Now it's time to put up or shut up. There's no way to tax ourselves out of this problem and remain competitive on the global stage. It's either spending cuts or growth. Of course cutting spending could hurt growth too (both long and short-term) so let's see if they can cut stuff that will keep the economy growing.
     
    #80     Nov 6, 2024