Brights Ratings

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by mm2002, Jan 4, 2003.

  1. Yes it is. The decimal places go 30 places at times (almost!); and today as I was trying to get long stock..it somehow automatically kept resetting my account ID, which I had to type in by hand, finally fixed that problem, by 10:10! Then I was bounced from server from 9:35-9:55 a couple times, whereas quotes dissappeared for minutes at a time to "refresh". By 11:00, I was totally frustrated, and watched the market climb w/o me.

    I'm sure when the DOW is +/- 6-7 points tommorrow...it will be fine:mad:

    Though for the most part, I have had very few problems with REDI since mid 1999 when I first started on it...though when you take Thursday off, and miss today it can be a bit frustrating!!!!

    Good trading, if you can!
     
    #11     Jan 6, 2003
  2. Dustin

    Dustin

    I used it for about a week. The main problems I found were DDE/ActiveX problems, screwy T&S data, and they removed the button on the L2 order entry to mark all sales on 'auto' (to avoid having to mark short sales 'short'). Redi tech told me they removed that option because "it never really worked properly anyways." That missing button was the most important to me because I don't have the extra second to mark sales short in most situations.

    Honestly I can't believe Redi/GSCO is still putting out a product this bad still. ProTrader/Hammer are light years ahead...
     
    #12     Jan 6, 2003
  3. Thanks for the reply. Was there anything good about new version (compared to the older one) ?
     
    #13     Jan 6, 2003
  4. Dustin

    Dustin

    There wasn't anything apparent to me. Redi has a ton of functions, but most are useless for my style of trading. I'm sure there were some new functions that I didn't see.
     
    #14     Jan 6, 2003
  5. I'd agree - Bright is as ethical and clean as possible in this business, the very best (and the Brightest??). However, the training and monitoring is not enough for newbies like I was two years ago. I 'blew-out' my account a few times, lost most of my small fortune and made a fool of myself before getting some 'solid' education, listening to 'Brighter' traders (than me) and limiting my losses on each position.

    I've made decent money the past 10 months with 'Pairs Trading'. Using their capital is the only way I could trade this style. Their commissions are low, their print-outs, charges and fees have always been exactly accurate. They are GOOD PEOPLE.
     
    #15     Feb 24, 2003
  6. This is true only if you are used to trading stocks, and the way futures move causes your performance to suffer.

    There are MANY advantages to trading futures actually (taxes, execution, cost, leverage, etc.).

    Jay
     
    #16     Feb 24, 2003
  7. MVP

    MVP

    I wonder how many Bright offices are profitable?

    Here's one company that has taken a back seat...

    I wish I could print a list of the traders who blew up at Bright because of slow-bleed from desk fees and REDI problems.
     
    #17     Feb 24, 2003
  8. Dustin

    Dustin

    As a side note, I do believe Bright is a good quality company. The software was really my only complaint, but I hear they may be making changes to that this year anyways.
     
    #18     Feb 24, 2003
  9. Blew up from desk fee's. LOL Your kidding right. The desk fees are a couple hundred bucks a month and you get them back at the end of the year if you are doing just a tiny bit of volume.

    Redi+ when measured against realtick, gr8trade, hammer, sterling, cybertrader, etc is inferior in several regards (needing a seperate program to get bullets being the most obvous area where they have fallen behind) however what they are lacking in an execution platform they have made up for traditionally in leverage and execution costs.

    Will Bright prosper going forward with the stale redi+ technology? Not if everyone else's technology keeps moving forward at a faster pace that redi+'s does and look around because that is surely the case currently.

    But Bright likely still will Prosper because eventually they will exert enough pressure for redi+ to get their act together or they will adapt and offer other options to their traders. The Trader Technology thing they sponsored here in Atlanta had a Penson clearing there as well as Realtick so prehaps Bright is figuring it out already and maybe they will give traders a choice going foward like some other firms like Echo already do. It would be suprising if they don't as Don goes to all these trading expo things and gets exposed to the new stuff atleast as much as any one else.

    Eitherway, IMO all firms on both the retail and prop side have to be looking over their shoulder at Andover right now because not only do they seem to have a cost advantage over other firms that don't self-clear but with SDS buying them you can expect their already robust trading platform to only get better.

    (with some firms there is the the firm, the software, and the clearing company, as thing move toward consolidation as they have been we have seen the merger of all three...an example being protrader being bought by instinet and thus having the firm basically do it all clear through instinet, and trade through gr8trade, only its still a retail op and they don't have an exchange seat or the volume numbers so they don't have the pure cost advantage that the more pure prop firms have, i.e. they have lost or will lose their highest volume traders because as everyone knows when you start to do big volume the smallest increase or decrease in rates has a huge effect on your longer-term bottom line....way more than most 20-40K share a day traders grasp).

    With andover they have found away to tie it all together lately as well as anyone has to this point: Low execution costs, Leverage, AND exceptional platform.

    Why it has taken this long for one firm to do it....I have no freakin idea.

    :(
     
    #19     Feb 24, 2003
  10. Complacency that is what it is. The register is ringing why bother to improve anything ? Only when it stops it is sometimes too late to do any changes.
     
    #20     Feb 24, 2003