Bright, what is the catch?

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by noddyboy, Feb 7, 2002.

  1. This is probably a stupid question.

    I read all the threads in this forum and, from what I understand, there are firms that will train you to trade, give you money to trade, give you the software and links needed to trade, plus you keep a percentage of the profits from each trade and get to do the trading from the comfort of your own home. All this in exchange for passing a test, putting up as little as $10K (which still remains yours to trade), and paying $200 to $400/mo.

    What's the catch

    lol. you have to be profitable.if it was easy everyone would do it.
     
    #31     Feb 22, 2002
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    What's the catch...

    The reality is that the Prop firm like all businesses
    is trying to make a profit off of commission, etc. It is worth
    the risk for a Prop firm to provide the SW, links, margin,
    small upfront stake, and % of profits... on the
    assumption that they will make money from the
    commisisons that are generated. Many of the good
    Prop firms have recognized that if they provide
    good training & support then the traders & firm
    will have a mutually beneficial relationship that will
    be profitable for both over the long term.

    The current times are very different then two years
    ago where daytrading shops opened on every corner,
    did'nt care about the traders, and only wanted to make
    make commisions off of scalping while the newbie traders
    went broke... after all there was always a new set of
    suckers to fleece (two years ago).

    The current trading firms that survived for the most part
    are more professional and focussed on making their traders
    successful with training and a support network. They hope that
    word of mouth of positive results will bring people to the door.

    just my .02....

    - Greg
     
    #32     Feb 22, 2002
  3. Curious to what time horizons the traders of these firms focus on. Is it all scalp/tick trading or do they allow position trading as well? Sorry for the stupid question.
     
    #33     Feb 22, 2002
  4. Sunfair

    Sunfair

    Thanks for the response.

    So you are saying that I pay them a commission on trades using the money they staked me? Seems like a good deal to me.

    As far as being profitable, I have to be. It's either that or get a real job. The problem I have is being limited in the number of trades I'm allowed per week. I continually pass up small profits because if I close position and have only 1 daytrade remaining (only get 3 per week) then I would be unable to get back in and would have to resort to using options (no trading limit, but much harder to get out of quickly). Therefore, being able to have the required capital to trade freely would be great.

    Is there a book or website that explains the particulars? From previous posts I read that Don Bright has a training class, but I am unable to find any details on his website.
     
    #34     Feb 22, 2002
  5. #35     Feb 22, 2002
  6. sharper

    sharper

    sunfair,

    I assume you're talking about the pattern daytrading rule. If you're at a professional firm, then those rules don't apply and you can daytrade as much as you want.
     
    #36     Feb 22, 2002
  7. axehawk

    axehawk

    The catch is, once you lose the $10Gs you put up, you're out. The other catch is most of these claim they will train you, but they couldn't give a shit if you're putting up money. It doesn't matter anyway, you have to be able to train yourself from within.
    :)
     
    #37     Feb 22, 2002

  8. My article I wrote.....

    http://daytradersusa.com/tharp.html

    Robert Tharp
     
    #38     Feb 22, 2002
  9. Just need to update the margin for retail traders.
     
    #39     Feb 23, 2002
  10. Sunfair

    Sunfair

    Good article. Thanks. I took you up on your offer to email questions. Thanks again.
     
    #40     Feb 23, 2002