Bright Trading's new payout model

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by Maverick74, Jul 29, 2010.

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  1. CQNC

    CQNC

    I love your oh-so-intelligent responses, Rodney. Always entertaining.
     
    #551     Sep 20, 2010
  2. I manage a fund with 9 figs in assets.
    No I'm not complaining. I'm just reporting on how markets are broken and how it will eat itself soon. The cancer grows larger undetected. And all y'all especially Maverick are stuck in the allegory of the cave watching shadows.

     
    #552     Sep 20, 2010
  3. CQNC

    CQNC

    Very deep, but no. It'll sort itself out, in time, like it always does, and things will be just fine again in America. Just watch and wait.
     
    #553     Sep 20, 2010
  4. What, you didn't hear? They announced recession over. Things are back to normal now.

     
    #554     Sep 20, 2010
  5. CQNC

    CQNC

    When you start presenting valid, coherent arguments against whatever it is you're ranting about, maybe someone will believe you're working for a 100M+ fund. Until then...
     
    #555     Sep 20, 2010
  6. Now that the heading of this thread has totally shifted focus from Bright's payout to HFT (lol!), I would appreciate your insights/comments regarding the following:

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...ed-by-finra-for-illegal-trading-strategy.html

    I would like to learn about what happened here, and if you could please explain in layman's terms for all of us that do not fully understand the "HFT lingo", thanks.

    Perhaps this can be answered by Lights, Propseeker, CQNC, Maverick, etc...
     
    #556     Sep 21, 2010
  7. He really is. However lots of successful wealthy people have ideas that aren't mainstream. Look at the overstock guy.

    Sorry lights. Not comparing you. Just making a point.
     
    #557     Sep 21, 2010
  8. trom

    trom

    They were probably doing their spoofing manually. No HFT involved. Based on the info I've seen, they were just layering the book with large orders. People have spoofed forever, and it still happens all day, every day. This case really doesn't have anything to do with HFT.
     
    #558     Sep 21, 2010
  9. they were stacking the book with size in order to manipulate algo's and other traders who react to to size. i think every trader i know has done that at one point in order to try and attract some liquidity. looks like they made it their strategy though, or in the very least part of an order execution algo.

    this type of spoofing is actually pretty widespread, but this is the first time in the US where it was actually deemed manipulation. i can see the reasoning behind deeming it that, but it's not exactly what i'd call 'pure manipulation', ie not without risk. a couple of months ago there was a russian firm doing that on XLF. they got stuffed with something like 10M shares, turned off their computers, and disappeared. their clearer dropped a 1M or so trying to unwind it. anyway, point is, it's not always black and white... sometimes the 'manipulator' gets manipulated.
     
    #559     Sep 21, 2010
  10. CQNC

    CQNC

    What trom said.

     
    #560     Sep 21, 2010
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