Bright Trading's new payout model

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by Maverick74, Jul 29, 2010.

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  1. riddler

    riddler

    did Don Bright really pose for Playgirl? i know the women love him and he was always a model but is this true?
    i heard at his office in vegas he alwys takes off his shirt and shows off his abs.
     
    #461     Sep 16, 2010
  2. CQNC

    CQNC

    Yes, yes I do. Now my sights are turned on Tradeworx. I want to know everything about this company now, and will.

    Game on.


     
    #462     Sep 16, 2010
  3. CQNC

    CQNC

    This was what I was thinking, was the only logical answer to my question. And if this is the case, then yes, I agree, it is unfair and should be corrected immediately by the SEC, with no valid possible argument to the contrary to allow it to continue.

    The few should not profit from the exploitation of the masses in a modern, educated, civilised society.


     
    #463     Sep 16, 2010
  4. #464     Sep 16, 2010
  5. It's funny how the identities of the major protagonists of this thread are a a metaphor (or fractal, if you will) of the meat of the discussion. Don Bright (not an alias), representing a known firm (Bright Trading), advocates greater transparency in the markets and a level playing field, while Maverick (probably an alias, PM for details), who admittedly works for an unnamed broker/dealer (without HFT customers or connections, wink, wink) defends the current system (dark pools, b/d internalization, sub-pennying, flash orders, etc), as unchanged in its reliance on corruption, so get over it, Don.

    Coming soon to an opera house near you.
     
    #465     Sep 17, 2010
  6. Ultimately, regulation is determined to what benefits the average investor and well avg joe can't spend that kind of money to co-locate. When there is no public, there is no real market. It's just sharks and killer whales now. The flash crash had all to do with the fact that these "market makers" are proprietary trading stratgegies in disguise. Sure, can't expect MM's to just be waiters and not profit, but the skew overwhelmingly favors the MM. And they've got risk controls, if the market is collapsing and domino'ing, why participate? Why make a market? That was May. Hence, circuit breakers. Regulators realize MM's can't be counted on.

    Today's mantra for the MM is "Me profit first, serve market/provide liquidity second", vs. the old auction system where "provide liquidity first, get to trade account in exchange for offering that service".



     
    #466     Sep 17, 2010
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Take the tin foil hat off your head. Everyone on this forum knows my BD is VTrader. Most people also know my name. I keep regular office hours and many ET members call me and meet with me in person. My two main points on this topic are one, hypocrisy and two, over regulation. Don admitted himself the issue was his firm's desire not to pay up to play the game. That is his decision. Other's have paid up and are playing. Some of them are profiting from that, others are not. Just like any other market.
     
    #467     Sep 17, 2010
  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Lights, one more time, the flash crash started in the currency markets, not in PG stock. How do you suggest we regulate the currency markets to prevent the next flash crash. I'm all ears.
     
    #468     Sep 17, 2010
  9. REad above, I added an edit.

    Flash crashes happen when HFT market makers don't wanna participate, cos their risk management programs tell them to shut off.

     
    #469     Sep 17, 2010
  10. Currencies, bonds, futures, stocks. ALL THE SAME THING in the master global spreadsheet. This is the flaw of electronic markets where intercorrelations are arbitraged by obscene leverage. When there is systemic risk, currency HFT market makers also turn off.

    May was make money/don't lose first, make markets second.

     
    #470     Sep 17, 2010
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