Bright Trading's new payout model

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by Maverick74, Jul 29, 2010.

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  1. GGSAE

    GGSAE

    Where did you get this 5k from? You have an account (of the firm's money) with a downside limit that if the account is hit, it's closed down (unless you choose to refund it on your own) but you're not on the hook for it. If you make 10k you get half, it resets at zero, different downside 'floors' for traders depending on how many levels they hit....I hope you aren't cash coyne and you're playing dumb to facilitate more advertising for Don! :)

    I wouldn't be surprised if this program gets whittled down to a select group of traders, call them micro hedge fund managers, that Bob puts more capital into...kinda a survival of the JVC fittest, so to speak....maybe i'm just babbling :p
     
    #231     Aug 7, 2010
  2. businessstaxes

    businessstaxes Guest

    a definition of true prop firm or prop trader is trader doesn't risk or ask to deposit any money into the firms bank. every broker or hedge fund has a prop trading division. some brokers outsource their prop trading division which goldman is doing to avoid any investigation or accusation of trading against clients like frontrunning and market manipulation or using too much capital and ban on banks and brokers from using more than 3% of capital in trading their own accounts. they might as well shut it down cause they will be audited by regulators.

    see how fast goldman sachs shuts down their prop trading division immediately after new finnancial regulation bill and shred and burn any evidence.

    and now employees of these brokers or firms get paid like up to 1 million reward for reporting any security violations. rat system. before if you ratted on your company you get fired and blacklisted from the industry. why did you think none of the sub prime fraud was never reported.

    these prop firms like don's were under the hedge fund or LLC model where the trader is a member of firm or LLC so not a traditional retail account.

    only advantage to thise prop accounts is the 10:1 leverage intra-day and access to ECN.





     
    #232     Aug 7, 2010
  3. yobo

    yobo

    ok. I have my account and sub account. I don't trade regular account and lose 5 to 10k in sub account. I then close out regular acct. How does this help bright?

    I'd rather tactically manage a portfolio of non correlated assets and achieve returns through asset allocation and a little leverage and have bright cover my margin on volitle days instead of being forced out of positions and having to take a loss.

    Don toughts 30:1 leverage which is great but a 3 percent move wipes you out.

    As maverick was saying key to success is equity.
     
    #233     Aug 7, 2010
  4. On our blog and podcast this week, I discussed Goldman's reaction to Fin Reg and FINRA regulatory notice 10-18 calling for their prop trading firm customers to pay out prop traders 80% or less. I can't post links, so see our site.

    This podcast is mostly on forex changes in Fin Reg. I will join this thread with other comments next week._
     
    #234     Aug 7, 2010
  5. Why is Echo not affected by this...

    www.Echotradeonline.com
     
    #235     Aug 7, 2010
  6. sulli

    sulli

    Probably because Echo clears with Merrill. GS is the one requiring the 80/20 payout. Just a guess?
     
    #236     Aug 7, 2010
  7. He did not answered them.
     
    #237     Aug 7, 2010
  8. With whom did you open? If you cannot post it here, could you PM me. Thanks.
     
    #238     Aug 7, 2010
  9. To pick their mind for free? You are not offering a job, and yet you want them to tell you what they know.
     
    #239     Aug 7, 2010
  10. You nailed it with your scenario. I doubt they will answer . Maybe the 5K account would not be allowed until your other account has generated profits that might cover the total of $5K. I would also bet that if they see something not going as they judge, they step in and cancel/freeze the account. If you do not trade the 20K account, they can still make money if your capital is used in other trades. With a SPAN margin the 3% interest on cash they earn can generate 50% a year, which is $10K on a $20K account.

    Here is another point. My alluding to the second account in the posts,people may call and dream of it as the end product/service. So they get more leads.
     
    #240     Aug 8, 2010
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