Bright Trading

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by beshbola, Nov 16, 2003.

  1. Most of our conversions run from 1 month to 6 month in length. We have also recently allotted $100 Million for Corporate Stock purchases that we can allocate to traders on a per day basis.

    We call this our "SAS" or Stock Allocation System, which is web based and very simple and user friendly. These stock allocations cost $1.50 per hundred with no SEC fees.

    I said I would let you guys know when the time was right...no fan fare...just good business.

    Don
     
    #21     Dec 4, 2003
  2. Don,

    Can you explain more about this SAS system?

    thanks,
     
    #22     Dec 4, 2003
  3. This is internal at this point. But basically we "allocate" stock as needed on a per day basis, via a web based system.

    Don
     
    #23     Dec 5, 2003
  4. bro59

    bro59

    Visited Bright's offices during the Expo.

    Must say the digs were pretty nice. Good orientation for new traders, and the free food didn't suck either (thank's for the free sandwich guys). Although I'm a professional trader, I'm convinced Bright isn't "the place to be." Maybe that's just because I'm already happily ensconced elsewhere, because my overall impression of the firm is pretty positive. I think a new trader could do a heck of a lot worse than going to Bright.

    Nice to see the Bright Boyz "in the flesh" finally (and a fair bit there was to see, he he), and to meet Baron too. Good show and thanks again for the food.
     
    #24     Dec 6, 2003
  5. ener555

    ener555

    I was wondering if any other company still allows the use of conversions as Bright does. My company said to me that the SEC rule includes conversion and are therefore not permitted. I don't know if ther are different types of conversions. The one I have is where you buy the Put sell the Call and own the underlying stock. I have it until march 2004 but have to get rid of it now. Is there still a grey area? Don would not admit still using them if they would be illegal??
    Thanks!
     
    #25     Dec 6, 2003
  6. My law firm conversed with SEC and they are taking the position that if your intent is to get around the uptick rule , you are in violation.
     
    #26     Dec 6, 2003
  7. ener555

    ener555

    Same here. That is why I don't understand that Bright is still using them? He must have a different interpretation of the SEC rule.
     
    #27     Dec 6, 2003
  8. firms might try to turn SEC letter into a grey area again by perhaps putting on conversion on a diff strike. Might work up until an audit wherien the SEC will say why do you have this shit on.. and there would no other answer than " I need to beat the uptick rule" and the SEC will say have a FINE day. As in $1000 per incident....Thin ice here folks !
     
    #28     Dec 6, 2003
  9. Mecro

    Mecro

    I agree,

    Using conversions is just asking for it.
     
    #29     Dec 6, 2003
  10. axehawk

    axehawk

    I don't think Bright is still using actual conversions. I believe mentioned something about "allotting stock". My guess is (and its only a guess) is the wealthier Bright brother (Bob) has purchased 5000 - 10,000 share blocks of the most popular traded stocks at Bright (company wide). They then allot Bright traders long stock of their choice on an intraday basis (for a fee of course) so they can sell stock on a downtick, thus getting around the uptick rule. I also assume Bob has hedged himself indirectly (probably S&P puts).

    Don will probably not come onto this site and describe the details because he doesn't want the SEC breathing down their neck, but he does want to hint to everyone that they may have found a loophole so he can attract more traders.

    Again, this is just my guess.

    Axe:)
     
    #30     Dec 6, 2003