Breakouts

Discussion in 'Journals' started by cashmoney69, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. PNRA, again there was profit taking the next day. notice the fibs an the 50% level we can to rest on.
     
    #71     Feb 15, 2009
  2. bighog

    bighog Guest

    cashman

    Breakouts are how "RUNS" start so must be focused upon as you state. In my experience the "KEY" concern for breakout traders is about the follow through once some LOSS STOPS and or entry Stops have been exhausted. Once the actual breakout occurs, which everyone can see if paying attention then the focus shifts to price momentum...............is the breskout just getting a few stops and petering out or is it drawing in new price followers?

    That question looks to be easily answered just by obeserving price action..............if it was that easy, HA. The bugaboo comes when price settles back maybe to the breakout point and even back a little more and BOOM...........price jumps back to breakout direction and runs a fast 5 handles and you are not onboard.

    The way i prefer to handle that situation is with a "HOOK", if price goes past the high/low of the original breakout before it settles back thats your clue to jump on board if not still in. Your STOP LOSS can then be a tick below/above the price setbacks low or high before it went back in original direction.

    Breakout failure STOPS are usually no big deal because you are at an inflection point of a move.

    Trading AFTER breakouts is where the real fun begins. Say you get a good 8 handle run and are looking foir more. What to do when price sets back as often as price will set back.

    The decision you MUST make is do i stay in and give some profits back or take your profits and retime the move for a continuation? Either way you are making a decision and the next decision is HOW much am i willing to give back if i stay in?

    The SIZE of the setbacks for what you are trading will give you a clue, the size of your LOSS STOPS if you ride the profit out without a trailing stop must be wide enough to handle more than the average setback. That can eat most profits away so your profits are always at risk unless you ring the register. Some traders like to stay in and ride out setbacks and others can not handle the heat. Personally i like to ring the register because after two women flew the coup i am not comfortable thinking long term relationships. (just kidding)

    LOSS STOPS must be wide enough in trading index futures to avoid the noise and this past 18 months, those LOSS STOPS needing to be wide can get rather hairy to say the least.

    STILL, breakout trading is where the profits are.

    PS: I am talking 5 minute charts. 100% daytrader
     
    #72     Feb 15, 2009
  3. Went long PNRA @ 45.99. Breakout target is in the 51.13 area.
     
    #73     Feb 20, 2009
  4. Coming back to BWLD from last week. This is more of a gap trade, and I'm thinking about taking it short at new lows for feb 26th. 4pts isnt asking too much
     
    #74     Feb 26, 2009
  5. UTHR. After a 12pt gap down, and a strong move to try and fill

    this gap, UTHR, may be near the end of its rally. A negative

    divergence has also been forming for some time now
    , but not

    sure if taking this short off the daily is jumping the gun. A 50%

    retrace would yield about 10 to 12pts - A very attractive trade.
     
    #75     Feb 26, 2009
  6. NFLX. Short here from monday at 36, looking to fill the gap, but price has also broken its upward TL, making this a breakout, and like most breakouts, the entry was days before. Im in, so lets see what happens. Looking for 3 to 4pts.
     
    #76     Feb 26, 2009
  7. UTHR broke out to the down side. Short from 71.10
     
    #77     Feb 26, 2009
  8. Looks like you like gap patterns or maybe thats just what your scans have been pulling up lately??

    Any particular type of breakout patterns you like the most?
     
    #78     Feb 26, 2009
  9. by "like the most" I mean consistantly deliver the most profits and are reliable as can be. I particularly like flags and wedges.
     
    #79     Feb 26, 2009
  10. channels and triangles are nice, but mainlyi just look at the more recent TL. I consider gaps a type of breakout as they rise above/below the current trend.

    cm69
     
    #80     Feb 27, 2009