Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro tests positive for Covid-19

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by wrbtrader, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    It's not a Plague???, the Plague killed 30% estimated of the worlds population, Covid isn't doing that, won't do that and won't be anywhere near, therefore it's not a plague, not even 100th of the Plague.

    Airborne posted inside shops/building ages ago, you commented on the thread, 3 months+, but WHO wouldn't change there mind, still trying to not accept they've made a HUGE error, governments are sadly working off there advice.


    It's simply too late to do anything, those infections happened 3weeks ago, so in 3 weeks they'd of peaked already like everywhere else, lockdown or not.

    Treatment options have improved hugely since NYC, deaths aren't increasing yet in Florida so might blow over pretty much without that many dead.
     
    #51     Jul 8, 2020
  2. JSOP

    JSOP

    No the buck stops at each individual country leader when it comes to managing the pandemic in their own respective country because each country is different and unique in their own way and this is the reason why each country's leader is elected/chosen/self-imposed there to lead their country in the best way possible BUT for those leaders who don't really want the bucks to stop with them, WHO shouldn't provide a venue and the ammunition for them to bulls*** their subjects.

    That's the problem with WHO. It is in the position of a supposed leadership and is expected to provide leadership but didn't really provide one and still tries to pretend that it did in order to stay relevant to justify the billion-dollar contribution that it receives every year. WHO is like a conductor of an orchestra that is really not needed but still tries to wave the baton hard to make the members of the orchestra to look at him/her but when a member of the orchestra really looks at the conductor and tries to follow the conductor, the notes that he/she ends up playing are all wrong. And then after the performance is all screwed up, the conductor goes to the artistic director of the orchestra to try to convince him/her why he/she is needed and shouldn't be fired.
     
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    #52     Jul 8, 2020
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  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Maybe I'm missing something...

    Why does a few here at ET keep comparing it to a Plague or even mentioning the word Plague in the same conversations as if governments / WHO have been doing the same (they have not) ???

    World economies, governments back in those days not even close to today's economies / governments.

    I just recently started this thread about Brazil's President...nothing to do with the Plague. I'm just curious where this Plague info is coming from considering I've seen it before here by ET members a few months ago and I'm sure I asked the same question back then...

    What's up with this Plague comparison ?

    In contrast, I've seen very little comparison to another Pandemic called SARS nor any discussions about how world leaders at that time handle SARS...specifically their response.

    https://torontosun.com/news/national/sars-expert-condemns-federal-response-to-covid-19

    https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-vs-sars

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    #53     Jul 8, 2020
  4. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Just a comparison, it's NOT like ie it's not killing 30% of the worlds population, and it's easier to type than Spanish Flu which also killed much much much more than Covid, Plague is just an old classic, throwing your dead into the gutter, bring out your dead, never heard ??

    Covid is worse than SARS, SARS killed very few, so why compare to that.

    Plague was a proper pandemic, obviously before medicine was really worked out.
     
    #54     Jul 8, 2020
  5. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    I’m sure there was a lot of strings being pulled behind the scene. Just like the FED, treasuary and all puppets get pulled. :D I’m sure we have same data points to work off of to help our leaders navigate.
     
    #55     Jul 8, 2020
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Now we're getting somewhere...

    SARS is very interesting because many of today's healthcare policies are based off of healthcare policies involving SARS.

    More interesting, those implementing the healthcare policy during SARS...they manage it much better than those implementing the healthcare policy during this Covid-19.
    • The comparison is simple...a difference in leadership and their response.
    Other than that, both Covid-19 and SARS are coronaviruses. I just couldn't understand why some would keep making those Plague comparisons when SARS would be more a suitable comparison on a medical / healthcare policy / social responsibility level.

    The point I'm making...there's a reason why SARS killed so very little in which I've mentioned many times in this thread of other threads. :D

    Another way to look at this. Now pretend that Covid-19 and SARS switched timeline. SARS happening today with Covid-19 happening many years ago.

    Very good chance SARS will have the same Covid-19 statistics of today while Covid-19 will have the same statistics of the SARS from years ago.

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    #56     Jul 8, 2020
  7. JSOP

    JSOP

    Yeah that's another problem. Despite numerous and numerous and numerous warnings from disease experts that this Covid-19 virus is very different from SARS in every single way, they still pretend it's the same virus and base every single healthcare policy on SARS.
     
    #57     Jul 8, 2020
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  8. Turveyd

    Turveyd


    SARS was very hard to spread so no comparison at all, Ebola even harder to spread.

    Covid almost as easy as the commom cold, which is also a corona virus I think not 100% on that, that's why it's spreads so fast.
     
    #58     Jul 8, 2020
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Young grasshopper,

    You have much to learn and I'm not comparing how it spreads. :D

    Many countries not able or unwilling to do the above where as with SARS...the above was much easier to do. Several of the problematic countries (high infection rate / death rate) made big cuts in their healthcare programs between SARS and Covid-19.

    Some of which involved preparedness.

    #leadership #healthcare #socialresponsibility

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    #59     Jul 8, 2020
  10. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    But didn't take much, to stop it's spread that's why SARS didn't go very far.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome


    Transmission
    The primary route of transmission for SARS-CoV is contact of the mucous membranes with respiratory droplets or fomites. While diarrhea is common in people with SARS, the fecal–oral route does not appear to be a common mode of transmission.[8] The basic reproduction number of SARS-CoV, R0, ranges from 2 to 4 depending on different analyses. Control measures introduced in April 2003 reduced the R to 0.4.[8]


    The response needed was very low, and they caught it early and tracked and traced the few that had it.


    Most of the Social Distancing stuffs gone from my local shop, realised just no point finally :) normality resuming :)
     
    #60     Jul 8, 2020