Boycott NIKE!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Clubber Lang, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    He wasn't murdered. It was a friendly fire accident. There's a big f'n difference.
     
    #51     Sep 3, 2018
  2. I had no clue who he was until a close friend who had a long career ending as a Ranger Master Sergent told me about the incident, he was active back then.

    This is not a man for conspiracy theories and he did not know what to believe.

    So seeing as someone who would have every chance of knowing did not, a daft cunt like yourself won't advance the topic. ;)
     
    #52     Sep 3, 2018
  3. RRY16

    RRY16

    Why did the higher ups burn his uniform he was wearing when he was killed? His brother who joined with him thinks he was murdered.
     
    #53     Sep 3, 2018
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    ...during their movement through the canyon road, Serial 2 [Tillman's platoon had to split up because of a broken Humvee; the parts were called Serial 1 and 2] was ambushed and became engaged in a running gun battle with enemy combatants. Serial 1 [Tillman's portion of the platoon] had just passed through the same canyon without incident and were approximately one kilometer ahead of Serial 2. Upon hearing explosions, gunfire, and sporadic radio communication from Serial 2, Serial 1 dismounted their vehicles and moved on foot, to a more advantageous position to provide overwatch and fire support for Serial 2's movement out of the ambush. Upon exiting the gorge, and despite attempts by Serial 1 to signal a "friendly position", occupants of the lead vehicle of Serial 2 opened fire on Tillman's position, where he was fatally shot.[14]
     
    #54     Sep 3, 2018
  5. RRY16

    RRY16

    Why did the higher ups make them tow a broken Humvee in a dangerous canyon after the senior officer on the ground begged them to let them blow it up so they wouldn’t have to go thru the canyon.?
     
    #55     Sep 3, 2018
  6. Great google you are like Sherlock Holmes there. The report from the same people who lied out their arse about it not being fratricide in the first place?

    It probably was incompetence or it was that mystery special forces guy. What was sure is Tillman was ready to tear the administration a new asshole on discharge.

    You think an atheist liberal minded guy would have had a problem with some guy kneeling?

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    Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat (left) in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004. Kevin, who was discharged in 2005, later wrote a powerful, must-read document. The following essay was first published Oct. 19, 2006.

    It is Pat’s birthday on November 6, and elections are the day after. It gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined the military. He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership and the American people. How we could be thrown in a direction not of our volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice… until we got out.

    Much has happened since we handed over our voice:

    Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is. Something like that.

    Somehow our elected leaders were subverting international law and humanity by setting up secret prisons around the world, secretly kidnapping people, secretly holding them indefinitely, secretly not charging them with anything, secretly torturing them. Somehow that overt policy of torture became the fault of a few “bad apples” in the military.

    Somehow back at home, support for the soldiers meant having a five-year-old kindergartener scribble a picture with crayons and send it overseas, or slapping stickers on cars, or lobbying Congress for an extra pad in a helmet. It’s interesting that a soldier on his third or fourth tour should care about a drawing from a five-year-old; or a faded sticker on a car as his friends die around him; or an extra pad in a helmet, as if it will protect him when an IED throws his vehicle 50 feet into the air as his body comes apart and his skin melts to the seat.

    Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes.

    Somehow those afraid to fight an illegal invasion decades ago are allowed to send soldiers to die for an illegal invasion they started. Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground.

    Somehow faking character, virtue and strength is tolerated.

    Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated.

    Somehow the death of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people is tolerated.

    Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and The Constitution is tolerated.

    Somehow suspension of Habeas Corpus is supposed to keep this country safe.

    Somehow torture is tolerated.

    Somehow lying is tolerated.


    Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.


    Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world.

    Somehow a narrative is more important than reality.

    Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is.

    Somehow the most reasonable, trusted and respected country in the world has become one of the most irrational, belligerent, feared, and distrusted countries in the world.

    Somehow being politically informed, diligent, and skeptical has been replaced by apathy through active ignorance.

    Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country.

    Somehow this is tolerated.

    Somehow nobody is accountable for this.

    In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people. So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity. Most likely, they will come to know that “somehow” was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites.

    Luckily this country is still a democracy. People still have a voice. People still can take action. It can start after Pat’s birthday.



    Brother and Friend of Pat Tillman,

    Kevin Tillman
     
    #56     Sep 3, 2018
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  7. RRY16

    RRY16

    Are you just too fragile to handle the truth, do you enjoy living in a fantasy world?
     
    #57     Sep 3, 2018
  8. RRY16

    RRY16

    I think that’ll do it.
     
    #58     Sep 3, 2018
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  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Fat slobs (read: Trumpers) don't buy/can't afford Nike, so it's a good move. Also, stay classy GOP
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    #59     Sep 3, 2018
  10. Max E.

    Max E.


    Probably true that if you were an allstar at your position you would be able to get away with it, but no owner should be expected to put up with that kind of distraction...... Kaepernick is a backup QB at best by now, why would a team risk costing themselves millions of dollars on a player who will spend the whole year on the sideline.
     
    #60     Sep 3, 2018