Boone Pickens & Those Stealing From Consumers (& Investors/Traders) Should Be Hung

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by ByLoSellHi, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. There should be criminal trials for anyone that intentionally DISTORTS true data regarding supply and demand of any commodity as necessary for the function or national security and world commerce as oil - Boone Pickens should be the first one strung up from the gallows. I'd volunteer to do the honors myself after a fair trial, giving him his due process.

    Oil at anything over true demand pricing of around $55/barrel constitutes one of the greatest thefts in the history of the world.

    I'm a proud, greedy, capitalistic pig, and I love money, but I draw the line at stealing from others, using lies and distortions. I will not steal or thrive off of, or be part of criminal rackets, out of my profit motive. I won't steal from the masses, the hardworking, the honest, and their children, like these slime do and have been doing for some time. Boone Pickens seems to be the kind of person that would lift the 'Jerry's Kids' jar on the counter of the 7-11 or convenience store if no one were looking.

    by: Philip Davis posted on: June 02, 2008 |

    On August 25th, 1944, when the Allies were clearly going to win back Paris, Hitler ordered his General, Dietrich von Choltitz, to burn the city to the ground, rather than let it fall back into Allied hands. The General disobeyed and saved the city.Today Criminal Narrators Boosting Crude have the nerve to run with the headlines " Gasloline prices of $12 to $15 per gallon is not that far away" as the oil apologists would rather burn the US economy to the ground than let the price of oil fall back to a normal and affordable range.

    There are 6Bn people on this planet and the Flat Earth Society can refer us to dozens of "reputable" scientists who will explain to us very clearly how the world is qute flat and they have research papers and "evidence" and everything. CNBC wheels out guests like Robert Hirsch without explaining that the full title of "The Hirsch Report" is "Peaking of World Oil Production: Impacts, Mitigation, and Risk Management" or that Dr. Hirsch makes his living speaking on the world oil crisis. No crisis, no money…

    No crisis, no money for a lot of energy and other commodity bulls and you can see the panic building into a frenzy as the tide turns against them. Really, think about it - do you really believe that in the "near future" you will be pulling up to a gas station and handing over two $100 bills for a tank of gas? Oil bulls love to throw these numbers around but completely ignore the economics of it since gasoline is not the only thing people buy with their paychecks.

    The only way we pay $200 for a tank of gas is for minimum wage to climb to $30 per hour. Perhaps, like post-war Germany, hyperinflation is the Administration’s end-game but don’t look for the rest of the world to take things lying down while the US inflates its way out of $10Tn in debt.

    The oil bulls are trying desperately to inflate their way out of Trillions of dollars of investments that have been dumped into the energy markets - not just into the commodities themselves but into the energy stocks, which would be worth quite a bit less than their 2, 3 and 4x gains if oil were at a more moderate level. How much is Rio Tinto (RTP) worth without $300 copper? Is it still $500, or closer to the $150 it traded for in 2005, when copper was "just" $180? RTP has a market cap of $154Bn - think of how much money is tied up in hyper-inflated commodity stocks and what will happen if the energy bubble starts to look like the housing bubble.

    Who are the apologists at CNBC really protecting? Bloomberg says it’s the investment banks, who have churned free Federal loans along with an investor frenzy into $596 TRILLION of speculative derivative investments "including those based on debt, currencies, commodities, stocks and interest rates." THIS IS A 44% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR! Commodity derivatives alone expanded by 26.5 percent as the price of gold and oil reached records. Contracts based on gold rose the most in the second half, by 40 percent to $595 billion. COME ON BODMAN, TELL ME AGAIN HOW THERE’S NO SPECULATION DRIVING COMMODITIES!


    Of course, the US doesn’t have the corner on idiot speculators. Futures trading in China was up 88% in May! All this money coming in is barely supporting record prices because professional investors are exiting while Cramer and company herd all their sheep in for the slaughter. The British have always been good sheep and FTSE commodity derivative shot up 27% over last year, to $9 Trillion "largely due to an increase in OTC traded energy contracts." According to the IFSL’s Commodities Trading Report, in the five years up to 2007, the value of global physical exports of commodities increased by 17% while commodity derivative trading on exchanges increased by 213% and the notional value outstanding of commodity OTC derivatives by 540%.

    There is a chart on page 7 of that report which shows that the amount of capital invested in commodity indices, which cause the holding of actual commodities by speculators, has gone from $10Bn in 2001 (pre Enron loophole) to $220Bn in 2008.

    Citigroup estimates that total funds invested in commodity markets through indices, hedge funds, exchange traded funds and short-term momentum players reached $400bn at the end of the first quarter of 2008, up from $330bn at the end of 2007.

    As Rediff points out, GS et al are literally willing to burn the global economy in order to make their cut and they simply WILL NOT stop until WE, THE PEOPLE do something about it, either through representation or through revolution and Paris, as well as other cities will be burning if the governments don’t put a stop to this nonsense!

    SOMETHING is being done by the CTFC but the Bush administration has played the "investigation" delay card before in order to take pressure off actual action being taken and that’s really not going to be enough this time as things are well and truly out of hand. People aren’t just running out of gas money, they are also starving to death and let’s hope that our finally Democratic Congress finds this as unacceptable as the people who voted them in think it is.

    Not just Paris, but the whole EU is down considerably this morning, as the situation in England is now so bad that Bush’s new pal, Gordon Brown and his Labor Party, may be looking at their first defeat since 1997. England’s economy is not worse than the US, it’s just that the UK doesn’t change its systems of economic measurement to improve their numbers like we do. Shares across Europe are down about 1.5% on renewed concerns in the banking sector as well as rising concerns that fuel can’t fall fast enough to save the airline industry.

    Asian markets were up a point, reacting to our Friday close (which we weren’t buying) as well as the recovering dollar. There are labor strikes in Vietnam as 25.2% inflation has pushed that workforce to the edge. The strikes reflect the anger of the tens of thousands of Vietnamese who have left rural farming communities to seek work in the new industrial zones around Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City only to see the buying power of their wage packets dwindle amid rising food and fuel costs. As Jim Cramer said back in ‘06 - "Don’t Miss Saigon Opportunity!" (he’s so cute when he’s screwing people, isn’t he?).

    The best news out of Asia today is the news we expected - Global chip sales are up 5.9% from last April as the obvious (to us) impact of smart-phone competition drove demand up despite a 14% decline in memory prices. Excluding memory chips, the dollar volume of other semiconductors grew 12%! Today is a good chance to pick up Intel (INTC) back around $22.50 (the Jan $20s are very cheap) or our old pals at Cypress Semiconductor (CY) if they drop bacck to $27 but that will only happen if First Solar (FSLR) drags the rest of the solars down with it now that other analysts are starting to see problems with that particular company.

    Pim(p)co’s Bill Gross was on CNBC this weekend banging the inflation drum, making good points about what BS the government’s measure of inflation - of course looking to make the point that bond yields (which he holds Trillions of) should be adjusted up to reflect this fact. Consumers in the US are indeed strapped for cash and are raiding their retirement accounts to pay current bills - that is not good… Also not good at all is that 19 of the 20 worst cities in Florida and California have recorded a 500% INCREASE IN FORECLOSURES OVER LAST YEAR’S RECORD LEVELS.


    So it’s burn baby, burn while Paulson plays the fiddle in the Middle East, on the first leg of his "Brother can you spare a Trillion dimes" tour to bring some investing dollars into the US economy. As I’ve been saying for days, I’m a bit bearish at the moment so we’ll watch today’s action and see how resolved the bulls are in the face of a pretty rough weekend’s worth of news.

    Of course it can all be made better by a nice sell-off in oil and, as usual, the European traders are running for the exits ahead of our open but you know those scamps at the NYMEX, they’re ready and willing to sell our country down the river in order to line their pockets while CNBC cheers on the sidelines.

    Let’s watch for some dramatic drops in Nymex Holdings (NMX) and Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) as regulation rears its ugly head and our pals at CME will be called on the Senate carpet to testify as to speculation on their exchange as well.
  2. The whole "supply vs demand" argument holds absolutely no water in the face of actual supply and actual demand and their nonlinear relationship to crude prices. Absolute manipulation going on here and I'm enjoying your posts. Voted 5.
  3. Euler


    I can't see anything but a secular bullish trend for oil into the indefinite future. I'm not saying that $127 oil is going to hold now, or that it should, but rather that $127 is far too cheap for the long term, unfortunately. There's a finite supply, and once it's used up, it's simply gone. Period.

    Slanderous, vicious posts such as the OP's don't seem to me to reveal anything aside from vindictiveness and envy. I'll rate it a 0.

    I'll neither defend nor condemn Pickens as a human being since I don't know him personally, but at the least Pickens should be commended for having gotten it so right, so often with respect to trading. After all, who gave the first widely-reported prediction of >$50 oil?

    Last I checked, this was a trading site rather than a conspiracy-theorist blog for those who want to usher in the next Bolshevik revolution (complete with the summary executions, evidently). But I'll admit that I've been wrong before...
  4. Time to abolish efficient allocation and price discovery in global markets and simply have the government decree crude oil prices?

    What didn't work in socialist Eastern Europe 1945 - 1990 won't work today.
  5. I think you're spot on. People love conspiracy and manipulation theories, ET is full of them.
  6. Doesn't Pickens have the right to free speech? I thought the USA was a free country, after all. Even if he is 100% wrong, he has the absolute right to give his opinion, just as you do.

    Wanting to murder someone for saying something that - in your opinion - is incorrect is grotesquely immoral and barbaric. You are nothing but scum in human form.
  7. It's funny all people talk about is 'all those evil speculators that go long oil'. What about those idiots trying to pick tops all the way from $50 to $120, going short crude and getting squeezed all the way up, increasing upside price momentum?

    Aren't the shorts equally 'guilty'?
  8. Daal


    buylosell is phil davis. at least make an effort to hide that next time. your an attention whore man, you make paris hilton look like a buddhist priest
  9. Why doesn' t the Plunge Protection Team go to work to drive down the price of the CL futures contracts. ? They do it to drive up the price of the SP futures contracts. They could could deposit $20 billion in a futures account and start selling.
  10. H30


    "It's funny all people talk about is 'all those evil speculators that go long oil'. What about those idiots trying to pick tops all the way from $50 to $120, going short crude and getting squeezed all the way up, increasing upside price momentum?

    Aren't the shorts equally 'guilty'?"

    True dat makloda.
    #10     Jun 3, 2008