Boom and Bust - An interesting read by Andty Xie

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Ivanovich, Aug 24, 2009.


    Andy Xie is a former Morgan Stanley economist now living in China; The following is from the South China Morning Post, Aug 24, 2009:


    The A-share market is collapsing again, like many times before. It takes numerous government policies and “expert” opinions to entice ignorant retail investors into the market but just a few days to send them packing. As greed has the upper hand in Chinese society, the same story repeats itself time and again.

    A stock market bubble is a negative-sum game. It leads to distortion in resource allocation and, hence, net losses. The redistribution of the remainder, moreover, isn’t entirely random. The government, of course, always wins. It pockets stamp duty revenue and the proceeds of initial public offerings of state-owned enterprises in cash. And, the listed companies seldom pay dividends.

    The truly random part for the redistribution among speculators is probably 50 cents on the dollar. The odds are quite similar to that from playing the lottery. Every stock market cycle makes Chinese people poorer. The system takes advantage of their opportunism and credulity to collect money for the government and to enrich the few.

    I am not sure this bubble that began six months ago is truly over. The trigger for the current selling was the tightening of lending policy. Bank lending grew marginally in July. On the ground, loan sharks are again thriving, indicating that the banks are indeed tightening. Like before, government officials will speak to boost market sentiment. They might influence government-related funds to buy. “Experts” will offer opinions to fool the people again. Their actions might revive the market temporarily next month, but the rebound won’t reclaim the high of August 4.

    This bubble will truly burst in the fourth quarter when the economy shows signs of slowing again. Land prices will start to decline, which is of more concern than the collapse of the stock market, as local governments depend on land sales for revenue. The present economic “recovery” began in February as inventories were restocked and was pushed up by the spillover from the asset market revival. These two factors cannot be sustained beyond the third quarter. When the market sees the second dip looming, panic will be more intense and thorough.

    The US will enter this second dip in the first quarter of next year. Its economic recovery in the second half of this year is being driven by inventory restocking and fiscal stimulus.

    However, US households have lost their love for borrow-and-spend for good. American household demand won’t pick up when the temporary growth factors run out of steam. By the middle of the second quarter next year, most of the world will have entered the second dip. But, by then, financial markets will have collapsed.

    China’s A-share market leads all the other markets in this cycle. Even though central banks around the world have kept interest rates low, the financial crisis has kept most banks from lending. Only Chinese banks have lent massively. That liquidity inflated the mainland stock market first, then commodity markets and property market last. Stock markets around the world are now following the A-share market down.

    By next spring, another stimulus story, involving even bigger sums, will surface. “Experts” will offer opinions again on its potency. After a month or two, people will be at it again. Such market movements are bear-market bounces. Every bounce will peak lower than the previous one. The reason that such bear-market bounces repeat is the US Federal Reserve’s low interest rate.

    The final crash will come when the Fed raises the interest rate to 5 per cent or more. Most think that when the Fed does this, the global economy will be strong and, hence, exports would do well and bring in money to keep up asset markets. Unfortunately, this is not how our story will end this time. The growth model of the past two decades - Americans borrow and spend; Chinese lend and export - is broken for good. Policymakers have been busy stimulating, rather than reforming, in desperate attempts to bring growth back. The massive increase in money supplies around the world will spur inflation through commodity-market speculation and inflation expectations in wage setting. We are not in the midst of a new boom. We are at the last stage of the Greenspan bubble. It ends with stagflation.

    Hong Kong’s asset markets are most sensitive to the Fed’s policy due to the currency peg to the US dollar. But, in every cycle, stories abound about mysterious mainlanders arriving with bags of cash. Today, Hong Kong’s property agents are known to spirit mainland-looking men, with small leather bags tucked under their arms, to West Kowloon to view flats. Such stories in the past of mainlanders paying ridiculous prices for Hong Kong flats usually involved buyers from the northeast. In this round, Hunan people have surfaced as the highest bidders. The reason is, I think, that Hunan people sound even more mysterious. But, despite all this talk, the driving force for Hong Kong’s property market is the Fed’s interest rate policy.

    Punters in Hong Kong view the short-term interest rate as the cost of capital. It is currently close to zero. When the cost of capital is zero, asset prices are infinite in theory. At least in this environment, asset prices are about story-telling. This is why, even though Hong Kong’s economy has contracted substantially, its property prices have surged. Of course, the short-term interest rate isn’t the cost of capital; the long-term interest rate is. Its absence turns Hong Kong into a futile ground for speculation, where asset prices increase more on the way up and decrease more on the way down.

    When the Fed raises the interest rate, probably next year, Hong Kong’s property market will collapse. When the Fed’s policy rate reaches 5 per cent, probably in 2011, Hong Kong’s property prices will be 50 per cent lower.
  2. "However, US households have lost their love for borrow-and-spend for good."

    So true, even my wealthiest of friends have completely changed behaviors. Far too many have a horrible case of buyers remorse from several years of keeping up with the jone's and regret buying shit they didn't really need and never really use.
  3. cokezero


    I've read a lot of articles from this guy and he always have a logical view with good points.

    But bear in mind that he's a known permabear and his nick name in chinese is "Air Force One" where "Air" also means "empty or selling short" in chinese.
  4. Excellent, excellent article.

    Thanks for posting this. I really like this guy's analysis and the conclusions he draws from the systemic problems he so clearly defines.
  5. It will turn out to be a big deal. The Obama administration will do much unnecessary damage trying to reignite the "borrow and spend" economy... before it's acknowledged to be futile.
  6. Agree, I'm a fan of his as well - and he's not afraid at putting specifics behind his words either.
  7. I'm not ashamed that I was one of these folks. My best friend did the Mc Mansion thing- bought a $1M house in suburban NJ, and I felt I had to do something similar, so I did. This was despite the fact that it's just me, my son and my wife.

    I was promoted and transferred with my company, so we sold it at a loss last year (not a crushing loss, but a sizable one nonetheless) and bought a townhouse in MD for a fraction of the cost. We're much happier now because we USE all the space and the utility/tax/mortgage bills are much, much lower - with a higher salary.

    I will never buy a large house like that again - no matter how much money I make. It's STUPID and I kick myself over it.

    Additionally, one of our cars is coming off a lease next month. Instead of replacing it, I'm going to drive my old Wrangler instead. Why spend money I don't have to? Who the hell am I trying to impress?
  8. AK100


    Asiaprop won't like that article AT ALL :)
  9. What if they don't raise interest rates....:)