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Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by Kurgan, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Kurgan

    Kurgan

    Currently watching 'Meetup 2006-08-10 Spydertrader'...
    Spyder - 'I was trading QQQ then QQQQ,DIA diamond and SPY,blah...,then i started to trade the Universe of 39 stocks...WTF??:confused: I would ask him,''why dont you continue to trade QQQQ?''I`d guess,Spyder would`ve answered,''Don`t put all eggs in one basket''?Btw,if everyone is interested,can find a thread where Spyder admits,that ,quote:''I didn`t watch stocks for a long time...'',some years later after the '2006-08-10 Meetup'.

    The 46 NLP test was cool,btw...I`m sure the attendants were overfreakingwhelmed!Good start to hang spaghetti on their ears.
     
    #131     Oct 14, 2012
  2. Kurgan

    Kurgan

    Spyder also admited in one of the threads(you want it you`ll find it),that he switched from hold and reverse decision making(where he failed) to EOB decision making.Just FYI.Just for the poor guys like 'streamlet' and french 'the fried' fry.

    Now,whos a lair,not a lair here?
     
    #132     Oct 14, 2012
  3. Kurgan

    Kurgan

    ...having the Moon on the background speaks out loud for the vassal nature of the speaker.''Just a concept,not an absolute...'' just yabbering on about absolutely nothing,just what he`s programmed to yabbering, as Chandravanshi.
     
    #133     Oct 14, 2012
  4. I was careless as you have pointed out in several posts..

    your attatched is a good example (one of many possibilities) of what I meant.

    It shows bar 2 and 3 and the fact that bar 2 and 3 are in the shadow of bar 1.

    We can reduce the verbal expressions to mathematical expressions usinf fuctions.

    By chosing the system and its elements so all possibilites are represented, then the system can be coded completely and cover completely how markets work.

    as markets work, they follow an algorthm which must also be complete and stated in a restricted manner. The Hypotheses must be "in-kind". and all of them must cover all the bases. When this is achieved, then a Parametric Measure comes into existance.

    I state the algorithm using gerunds and the independent and dependent variables are arranged to maintain the "in-kind" requirement.

    the illustrated lateral can caste a longer and longer shadow with each new bar if the new bar remains within the shadow.

    In the past there have been several mathematical renditions of this and they sometimes did not meet the actual requirements to keep the system consistent. I see them and I do not police them completely.
     
    #134     Oct 14, 2012
  5. As you point out I am using a system and a complete approach.

    It is difficult to get across to others that the market opoerations are completely defined in a given mathematics. Don't accept my view; it is always your choice.

    Product manuals are in the picture because the programming can be done using the manuals and especially the trining videos.

    your other suggested formats are your choice and then you get their manuals and their videos. I mentioned the schema of SQL and Haskell because it was worked on at the IBM APL buildings which were on UCSC property (As was I) at the time of their creation. this is where RDBMS concepts got systematized and became workable for problem solving.

    I am known for the OOE principles and concepts. They become time savers for becoming wealthy. At some point enough knowledge aboyt what I do will make it possible to compare with other approaches.

    Mankind has a way of doing things to move forward. Mankind uses tools it turns out.

    The topic is the market. the topic is partnering successfully with the market. When a person has tools that extend his reach he is able to have a larger environment in which to explore.

    there is a piont where the tools used to better undertand the operation of markets, these tools become part of the automated coding.

    monitoring and analysis can lead to understanding that signals come from indicators if the indicators are specifically designed TO BE SIGNAL GENERATORS.

    The providers of the support and tools ordinarily sell their services. I buy their platform services. So I get their functions, operators, and sinal gnerators (indicators). I can also do my coding and keep it in my libraries. Some libraries I use have been made public. Ordinarily libraries are sold. In this situation, the people who trained with me on their location were given my libraries instead of them being sold.

    Improvements are being made on this platform all of the time. they give me priority if I have a request for a specific improvement. My goal was to help others who, in turn, will silve local problems.

    I do not want to see prints of trading I want to see proof of helping others.

    we took a lap before on learning to trade. So far I do not know if there was a payoff for me spending time.

    we certainly cannot maintain an alignment that gets you anywhere without a lot of side issues.
     
    #135     Oct 14, 2012
  6. akip the alligator it is a poor money velocity generator.

    Alligators are used in a set of three. they are diffrentiated by ccolor. the M3 Summit manual begins with the alligator stuff to get people familiar with strategies, functions, pages, templates, etc.
     
    #136     Oct 14, 2012
  7. most traders are in a particular space and they got vthere through their efforts.

    as it turns out many many platforms are in vogue.

    Is your platform up to date with the snippets your platform has for following this approach. Spend the time to bring it up to date. so you can keep up.

    when you find out that you are having difficulty, then you can do something about your difficulties.
     
    #137     Oct 14, 2012
  8. From your statement on how to manage this and your quiry about PVT, here is how getting rich works:

    A potential trader learns a very simple money making method. In time, he decides to WORK at becoming a part of the financial industry. You have read the description of PVT on 25SEP04. Here the Universe to be used is quantified in fundamental and technical terms.

    You will be using this as a dump for excess capital over the capacity of SCT trading which is 5 times the capacity of the given commodities market.

    When the dumping gets more difficult because you are running many streams and many accounts, then you are at the limit of 100,000 shares per stream in about 12 streams.

    At this time, you branch out into the intermediate term trading which usually only needs off hours attention. Though it must be said that trading big money is where sector rotation comes in.

    At this point, you are simply merging into the big time and you are different than the CW type businesses.

    At some point you will have ofrmed a "C" corporation or a NFP, if the IRS is willing to let you or you will be in decision making roles in other NFP's whereby, you will have a team of college kids doing the ATS trading for thier capital.

    In summary, evething has already ben explained. how things work is in ooperation all over the world. the mentoring is going on and has been going on since 1957. there is nothing new and, s a rule, not many people choose to get rich quickly; most need to invent and criticize.
     
    #138     Oct 14, 2012
  9. Kurgan has made several posts.

    Skip reading his commentary for the most part.

    The way to get to a competent level is to do drills.

    the main themes will be to explain the pieces of the market and do drills so you can see them. We will use functions for each piece.

    To handle the emotional part of going from potential trader to a money making person, we will use a Universe and a one pager for position trading stocks. this way those who have jobs can just spend a little time in the evening (daily) and trade streams of capital to make money continually.

    I will work on adding the rest of the 21 pieces we will use for everything. (10 price pieces and 11 volume pieces).

    For stocks the profit is 10% on a turn. The volatility of stocks that make the Universe is 20% so you will enter late and leave early so your money velocity is quite high.

    In stocks you can see on the one pager that the event you usually first monitor is DU. On the entry day, DU is reached early in the AM so you are using the 1 and 1/2 hours before price moves to take advantage of having a leading indicator signal.

    this higher volume FRV is maintained and the volume increases until the left side of the price range is approached. Here you see that the peaking volume is no longer maintained and you exit the long position and go into another stock on your hot list.

    So far no one has posted a Universe and as a consequence the discussion has not tunred to "scoring" the universe to set up the timing for the peeling off of the stocks in the Universe. We will use an Excel or TSOG for this. It takes a click of a button on a stockcharts.com sort that is qualified. Later, we will program GFTI to have a template and associated library.

    No one has posted the transcription of the camtasia that illustrates the monitoring and analysis process. you can wait until someone else does the work for you or you can do the work or you can post questions or criticisms. As long as work is missing nothing moves forward except me.
     
    #139     Oct 14, 2012
  10. So the PVT takes 7 to 8 trades to double capital since 10% is the turn value. It can be as much as 40 to 50 days for doubling once you get organized and begin to work. this is five or six doublings per year.

    1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32. Thus you see that the percentage looks like these values with two more 0's attached.

    the commodity events take 1/10 the time for the events to occur relative to position trading stocks. Thus SCT is intraday trading. The pattern explains the OOE's for the primary and sceondary volume event sets. Price gates and kills the use of volume measures. The volume has two parts: continuation and change all coming from the "IF" part of the HS of the algorithm.

    Someone can post the algorithm contents if they wish. this chows that prices is not in opposite terms but price is in orthogonal terms.

    The Parametric Measure is a vector velocity. Hence the use of adjacent bars by the beginner. his mind begins in an given language and always sticks to this one language.

    Commodities markets have varying profit levels to take the full offer of the market. so the standard is the full offer in a given volatility range as expected.

    By beginning with a complete set of pieces, the coding of the complex system of these pieces unfurls via the systems and subsystems of logic as explained by Carnap.

    In short it is unbelievable to most built minds which use diffrent languages. All of this is in a foreign language as compared to the language of CW in the financial industry.

    As in all subjects going from theoretical to applied is easy. Going from applied (CW) to theoretical is not usually possible.
     
    #140     Oct 14, 2012
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