Bonds Behaving Short

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by Spectre2007, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. lets rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    oi oi,

    =)

    25 basis, bond rally, dollar rally, gold collapse, equity collapse, oil collapse.

    50 basis, bond decimation, dollar decimation, gold rally, equity rally, oil rally.

    get your flak gear out..........................
     
    #81     Sep 18, 2007
  2. 113 even stops uszo7 at risk from FED statement.
     
    #82     Sep 18, 2007
  3. intraday yield curve blowout, inflationary side, the futures were more pronounced then cash, and their was no arbing, which implies that the bond boys knew about the decision in advance.

    there was a initial fakeout as usually happens in bonds then the yield curve proceeded to blowout even more.
     
    #83     Sep 18, 2007
  4. dhpar

    dhpar

    uh oh - difficult to manage post meeting.
     
    #84     Sep 18, 2007
  5. quite easy if you know which leg to remove.
     
    #85     Sep 18, 2007
  6. dhpar

    dhpar

    well the trade is still likely a downer - even assuming you had a great execution on that one leg.
    But nice to here you manage to get through it as it was almost the worst position you could have into the meeting (retrospectively).
     
    #86     Sep 18, 2007
  7. the curve is a representation of inflationary/deflationary bias, since the FED cut 50, inflationary biases blew the curve out, now recessionary fears will be weighed as economic reports come out, the bond market likes to print double tops and bottoms on the daily before a meaningful trend change occurs....the 30 year should test 114 handle or high 113 (recession fears), its a cycle. People suspect that Ben is being free with his wallett, hes more conservative then what the indication was today.

    And it was a poor position to handle after the meeting, since bonds didnt really move much, just the curve was where the trade was. I was expecting a 25 basis.
     
    #87     Sep 18, 2007
  8. #88     Sep 19, 2007
  9. dhpar

    dhpar

    you are right. he definitely can not be less conservative than what it looked like yesterday. lol :D
     
    #89     Sep 19, 2007
  10. lol, the yield curve continues to blowout, as long end of the curve sells off. A inflection point in shift of the curve will be when 10 year notes hit 4.75%-78%, it would represent a 50% retracement.

    for the week its a feel good mentality. The inefficiency is jubilance in equities, bearishness in long end bonds.

    only recessionary fears can flatten the curve.
     
    #90     Sep 19, 2007