Bonds: All Time Low Yields!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by The Answer, May 14, 2003.

  1. trader99

    trader99


    Oops! I just long ZB! Sorry. I meant to say the electronic version. I trade Ym and ES too long and I have a bad habit of calling any futures contract I trade the minis. ZB is very liquid though.
     
    #31     May 15, 2003
  2. Pabst

    Pabst

    Mini volume (YH) yesterday 100 contracts.
    ZN vol on ACE 320,628
    Bond vol in Pit 133,283

    ZN volume on ACE 610,000 !!
     
    #32     May 15, 2003
  3. FGBL volume on Eurex: 1,090,507
     
    #33     May 15, 2003
  4. Nitro,

    If you are looking for good action in the securities markets with good liquidity, the T-bond and the 10 YR Note is it. And they are traded electronically. Computer dominated almost 4 to 1 computer to pit. There is no need to trade the mini bond or note. The big ones are only $31.25 a tick. Notes on avg will have a 16-20 tick range and bonds 25-30. Stay away from the Eurodollars. It is like watching paint dry. The commissions will kill you.
     
    #34     May 15, 2003
  5. trader99

    trader99

    Here are ZB volumes figures:
    Final Futures Volume / Open Interest
    For May 14, 2003
    Last Updated: May 15, 2003 10:06 AM CST
    30 Year U.S. Treasury Bonds Month a/c/e
    308,144

    http://www.cbot.com/cbot/quotes/futures_volume_detail/0,1589,12+410+415+8,00.html

    ZN a/c/e volume
    594,007
    http://www.cbot.com/cbot/quotes/futures_volume_detail/0,1589,12+410+415+9,00.html
     
    #35     May 15, 2003
  6. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    You are correct...

    ZN - ZB my bread and butter... when someone says they are in a trade and gives the wrong contract information, makes a guy wonder about the validity of the trade.

    ZN is like trading a mini ZB, but with twice to three times the volume. As the ZN is now the becnhmark it has the majority of the volume.

    The 5 will often have more volume than the 30 (ZF and ZB respectively) which puts it in the fairly active catagory.

    Minis are not needed on something that has a margin of ZF - 1215 and ZT - 1013.

    All bond and note markets above are the electronic version of those traded in the pits.

    Make 'em pretty, Chris
     
    #36     May 16, 2003
  7. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    OK, understand.

    Very nice trade, by the way!!

    Make 'em pretty, Chris
     
    #37     May 16, 2003
  8. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    They can be great spreading vehicles, front month against 1 yr out. For almost nothing in margin.

    Make 'em pretty, Chris
     
    #38     May 16, 2003
  9. stocks going up
    bonds going up
    gold going up

    all at the same time.

    this only means one thing to me, and that is big money is being pumped into the financial system by the fed.
     
    #39     May 16, 2003
  10. nitro

    nitro

    Yeah, I see that!

    nitro
     
    #40     May 17, 2003